Some ..Vauxhalls not safe for Driving Tests.

cyclonebri1

Inactive wrote: »

It is all about the law of averages 'bri, I honestly believe there is less chance of a Japanese branded car going wrong than a non Japanese brand.

I actually think there is more chance of the driver or even the examiner "going wrong during the driving test"", :D :o:o:o

Inactive

cyclonebri1 wrote: »

I actually think there is more chance of the driver or even the instructor "going wrong during the driving test"", :D :o:o:o

:rotfl: The " instructor " isn't normally present on a driving test.:)

bigjl

I would also have defended Toyota's position as they have taken have issued a recall for a problem that has showed up in use, the problem of the ABS brakes was just the American media looking for a whipping boy, look at the way they have attacked BP, pity that the company that owned and ran the rig was American.

The press where having a slow news day, what about the large american 4x4 car that had a little fault in that it would roll over at the slightest invitation, in the end they blamed the tyres, the fact that those same tyres worked fine on many other models of 4x4 means nothing, and lets not forget the tiny issue of certain models of Ford Crown Victoria bursting into flames when hit from the rear.

I have more of a problem with manufacturers that ignore problems.

And I will point out that we have Vauxhall Zafiras at work and they are the worst car we have ever had, they break down all the time, and the replacemnt can't come soon enough for me.

I still think that Vauxhall have taken the correct action and the OP is over reacting to this, people want cars to be both cheap and economical, this results in trying so save weight and materials, in this instance they have spotted a weakness and rectified it.

What about the last model of Cavalier with the bulkhead splitting, a fault that could also happen on the Saab 900 that was based on the Cavalier platform, it didn't happen to all of them, so may hae had something to do with how the cars where used.

One thing that a learner isn't is sympathic to a vehicle.

patman99

I can remember Vauxhall having the same handbrake issue on the Vectra and Astra a year-or-so ago, it was a major story on Watchdog. The BBC even hired an independent expert engineer to look at the problem. In the end, the problem turned-out to only occur when the handbrake was applied by pushing-in the button. It seems that when you apply the handbrake without using the button, you can hear (and feel) the anti-dropping mechanism dropping into the grooves between the teeth on the ratchet wheel. When using the button, there was a high chance that when you released the button, the mechanism would come to rest on the tip of the tooth.

Vauxhall worked with the Watchdog engineer for close-on 8 months to try and solve this issue. In the end, they made it clear in the owners manual that the button should not be used when applying the handbrake as this may cause the handbrake to release.

Lum

patman99 wrote: »

Vauxhall worked with the Watchdog engineer for close-on 8 months to try and solve this issue. In the end, they made it clear in the owners manual that the button should not be used when applying the handbrake as this may cause the handbrake to release.

       You're using it wrong
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cyclonebri1

bigjl wrote: »

I would also have defended Toyota's position as they have taken have issued a recall for a problem that has showed up in use, the problem of the ABS brakes was just the American media looking for a whipping boy, look at the way they have attacked BP, pity that the company that owned and ran the rig was American.

The press where having a slow news day, what about the large american 4x4 car that had a little fault in that it would roll over at the slightest invitation, in the end they blamed the tyres, the fact that those same tyres worked fine on many other models of 4x4 means nothing, and lets not forget the tiny issue of certain models of Ford Crown Victoria bursting into flames when hit from the rear.

I have more of a problem with manufacturers that ignore problems.

And I will point out that we have Vauxhall Zafiras at work and they are the worst car we have ever had, they break down all the time, and the replacemnt can't come soon enough for me.

I still think that Vauxhall have taken the correct action and the OP is over reacting to this, people want cars to be both cheap and economical, this results in trying so save weight and materials, in this instance they have spotted a weakness and rectified it.

What about the last model of Cavalier with the bulkhead splitting, a fault that could also happen on the Saab 900 that was based on the Cavalier platform, it didn't happen to all of them, so may hae had something to do with how the cars where used.

One thing that a learner isn't is sympathic to a vehicle.

Strange that VX issue especially so because back in the 80's I had to deal with 2 Mk11 Cavs where the bulkhead had cracked in several places and the clutch and brake pedals were floating about:eek:

cyclonebri1

Inactive wrote: »

:rotfl: The " instructor " isn't normally present on a driving test.:)

A mere slip of the brain dear boy;)

Out of interest I actually had 2 examiners in the car when I took my test, 1 to test me and 1 to test him. I think he was more nervous than me.:D