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Some ..Vauxhalls not safe for Driving Tests.

Inactive
Inactive Posts: 14,509 Forumite
I found this at the DSA website;

http://www.dsa.gov.uk/News.asp?id=SXAC50-A7836681

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  • Hammyman
    Hammyman Posts: 9,913 Forumite
    Where does it say they're not safe? Nowhere.
  • LeeSouthEast
    LeeSouthEast Posts: 3,822 Forumite
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    Somewhere around the part where it says "the handbrake may fail at any time" ...
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  • mikey72
    mikey72 Posts: 14,680 Forumite
    Somewhere around the part where it says "the handbrake may fail at any time" ...

    Doesn't mention safety. Would make the hill start a bit more difficult though. :)
    Probably as it's a good reliable car it's popular with instructors, and they'll all have dual control anyway, so there'll be no impact on most tests.
  • Inactive
    Inactive Posts: 14,509 Forumite
    Hammyman wrote: »
    Where does it say they're not safe? Nowhere.


    They are obviously unsafe, otherwise the DSA would not ban them from Driving Tests.
  • Hammyman
    Hammyman Posts: 9,913 Forumite
    Somewhere around the part where it says "the handbrake may fail at any time" ...

    Again, where does it say its unsafe? It doesn't because it isn't. It would mean that the testee wouldn't be able to complete manouvres in accordance with the test but a handbrake failing does not make a vehicle unsafe.
  • Hammyman
    Hammyman Posts: 9,913 Forumite
    edited 21 August 2010 at 1:07PM
    Inactive wrote: »
    They are obviously unsafe, otherwise the DSA would not ban them from Driving Tests.

    Wrong. The lack of a handbrake means the procedures cannot be performed as required, i.e when you stop, you cannot apply the handbrake and put the car in neutral and remove your feet from the pedals and you cannot perform a hillstart in the manner required. Therefore you would fail the test.

    You can do a hillstart without a handbrake and you can stop a car without a handbrake and hold it stationary using the middle pedal on a manual car commonly known as a foot brake.

    And they've not been banned. You can still use them with dual controls. Why? Because of the pedal that applies the brakes.
  • Inactive
    Inactive Posts: 14,509 Forumite
    Hammyman wrote: »

    And they've not been banned. You can still use them with dual controls. Why? Because of the pedal that applies the brakes.

    They have been banned in their standard, ex factory condition, they are unsafe.
  • LeeSouthEast
    LeeSouthEast Posts: 3,822 Forumite
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    Hammyman wrote: »
    Again, where does it say its unsafe? It doesn't because it isn't. It would mean that the testee wouldn't be able to complete manouvres in accordance with the test but a handbrake failing does not make a vehicle unsafe.

    Read inbetween the lines. Unattended handbrake fail could even kill. I'd call that 'unsafe'. If you're in the car, not a big deal...
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  • Sandoval
    Sandoval Posts: 903 Forumite
    Difficult to complete the driving test's mandatory J-turn without a working handbrake... :D
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