Some ..Vauxhalls not safe for Driving Tests.

Kilty_2

I think a bigger issue here is that this has been an issue with the Corsa D before - I'm sure my instructor's 07 plate one was recalled for this.......

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Kilty wrote: »

I think a bigger issue here is that this has been an issue with the Corsa D before - I'm sure my instructor's 07 plate one was recalled for this.......

See post # 11...;)

cyclonebri1

Lum wrote: »

In the interests of their own safety, they need to be able to see what is going on around them, and they need to be able to stop the car if they deem it necessary.

It's perfectly legal to take a test with a car without dual controls tho'

Just how much control an examiner has over a non DC car is marginal anyway effective HB or otherwise. Rear view? Only at low speed and reversing. ;)

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cyclonebri1 wrote: »

It's perfectly legal to take a test with a car without dual controls tho'

Just how much control an examiner has over a non DC car is marginal anyway effective HB or otherwise. Rear view? Only at low speed and reversing. ;)

It always was the case that in a vehicle with restricted rearward visibility, a right hand reverse would be given, as opposed to the usual left hand reverse, not sure if that still applies.;)

Lum

cyclonebri1 wrote: »

It's perfectly legal to take a test with a car without dual controls tho'

Just how much control an examiner has over a non DC car is marginal anyway effective HB or otherwise. Rear view? Only at low speed and reversing. ;)

These days you are required to have a second rear view mirror (usually a stick on one) when presenting your car for the test.

A handbrake is better than nothing. They can't reasonably require dual controls as that effectively forces everyone into ADI cars which I'm sure would get some people's backs up.

bigjl

Lets face facts, they only want evidence that the car has had the required modification, due to H&S orientated people they have to be seen to overeact a bit, but the main reason for the failure would be harsh use, which happens when you are learning, not as bad as some problems that have caused recalls over the years.

DSA has to be seen to take the correct course of action in these days of litigation and compensation culture.

My opinion is that these cars are safer, as Vauxhall has issued a recall for a modification when the problem was almost certainly caused in some ways by the use to which a lot of Corsas are put to with inexperienced drivers.

Can't really see why some are getting so irate about a very simply thing, also the handbrake would still work, though not aswell, plus the handbrake could fail completely and the rest of the brakes would work perfectly, not really a safety issue, inconvenient, but then you should always leave a car in gear and the handbrake applied when unattended.

The only safety concern that I think could occur is that when you make a dangerous mistake then without dual controls the instructor would pull the handbrake to prevent an accident, or at least that is what I was told when I learned to drive, though this was over 20 years ago, and dual control cars weren't that common, at least not where I grew up, you learned in your parents car normally, and sometimes you didn't put it in a ditch a few days after your test.................

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bigjl wrote: »

My opinion is that these cars are safer, as Vauxhall has issued a recall for a modification when the problem was almost certainly caused in some ways by the use to which a lot of Corsas are put to with inexperienced drivers.

Not poorly designed/manufactured then?;)

bigjl

Inactive, this is hardly an important issue, do you have a specific problem with Vauxhall or do like being deliberately argumentative on an issue that has already been identified and dealt with.

mikey72

Inactive hates anything British/European.
Japanese or Korean only in his house.
It makes good reading though.

Lum

bigjl wrote: »

The only safety concern that I think could occur is that when you make a dangerous mistake then without dual controls the instructor would pull the handbrake to prevent an accident, or at least that is what I was told when I learned to drive, though this was over 20 years ago, and dual control cars weren't that common, at least not where I grew up, you learned in your parents car normally, and sometimes you didn't put it in a ditch a few days after your test.................

This is the whole point, and the reason why you are not required to have the recall work done if the car has dual controls.

In a standard Corsa, the sole means the examiner has of preventing an accident is that handbrake. If it's known to be faulty then you would be an idiot to get into the car with someone who could be completely unable to drive safely for all you know.