TV licence query

derrick

kaya wrote: »

lol, im afraid you are misguided my friend , the bbc were granted the permission to charge a licence fee by royal charter in about 1927(ish) , this was on the condition that they remained unbiased in their reporting and were to be run "for the people", thats why the bbc is advert free and all the other channels are not, captiva (who administer the fee) are not the bbc , its a play on words, you are on a website that is run for the bbc, it says that you need a licence to watch or record live tv, remember you are on a website that refers only to the bbc, is run for and on behalf of the bbc, and thats what they are referring to, no other channel has a royal charter, no other channel has a licence fee, no other channel is allowed to charge you a fee, you will not find reference to licence fee charges on any other broadcasters site other than the bbc, the whole thing is just another fee collecting con and has been for years and years, feel free to contact any other broadcasting company or channel and ask them if they have a legal right to charge you a fee for their services, they will tell you exactly the same , there was a woman on bbc news a few months back from the licencing dept refering to this very subject:
bbc news interviewer: "so do you need a licence to watch other channels?"
tv licencing woman: "of course you need a licence to watch live bbc, and if you have one that will cover you for all the other channels as well"
another play on words, nowhere in that statement did she say you NEEDED a licence to watch anything other than live bbc, i would love somebody to supply a statement from any other company stating you need a licence to watch their programms, but they wont, because all the other companies know that to do so would be fraud. The licence fee is just another stealth tax, albeit a very successfull one

Use whatever words you want, you need a licence to watch live tv, if you don't you can be fined, the details are in the links and the quote, just try telling the man from Capita that you watch every channel except the BBC and see how quickly you will be reported, charged and fined.


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kaya

derrick wrote: »

Use whatever words you want, you need a licence to watch live tv, if you don't you can be fined, the details are in the links and the quote, just try telling the man from Capita that you watch every channel except the BBC and see how quickly you will be reported, charged and fined.


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please show me the section anywhere in the world that says you need a licence to watch anything other than the bbc in the uk,
you cant, you are making an assumption that the capita's website refers to ANY channel, which is exactly what they want you to do, i bet you any amount of money you have that you cannot provide me with a letter from itv, channel 4, channel 5 or any other channel apart from bbc that states they are allowed to charge you a fee for their tv broadcasts, (ill settle for a link from their website)you keep paying you fee fella if it makes you happy , and the old boys club that is the bbc will keep taking your money and feeding you propoganda for the rest of your natural life whilst spending your hard earned money on fat houses and ludicrous salaries :-)

derrick

kaya wrote: »

please show me the section anywhere in the world that says you need a licence to watch anything other than the bbc in the uk,
you cant, you are making an assumption that the capita's website refers to ANY channel, which is exactly what they want you to do, i bet you any amount of money you have that you cannot provide me with a letter from itv, channel 4, channel 5 or any other channel apart from bbc that states they are allowed to charge you a fee for their tv broadcasts, (ill settle for a link from their website)you keep paying you fee fella if it makes you happy , and the old boys club that is the bbc will keep taking your money and feeding you propoganda for the rest of your natural life whilst spending your hard earned money on fat houses and ludicrous salaries :-)

You are correct in that no other channel is allowed to charge a fee, but you are not allowed, (legally), to watch LIVE tv without a licence whichever channel you watch.

Not all of the licence fee money goes to the BBC, there is a small % that goes to the minority channels, CH4 & 5 spring to mind.

Check out the CAB's website, e.g. "You need a TV Licence to use any television-receiving equipment to watch or record TV programmes as they are being shown on TV. These include programmes on the BBC, ITV, Channel 4, Channel 5, cable and satellite television. Television-receiving equipment includes:.........."

"You don't need a TV licence if you only ever watch catch-up services, like BBC i-Player, that let you watch programmes after they have been broadcast."


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kaya

derrick wrote: »

You are correct in that no other channel is allowed to charge a fee, but you are not allowed, (legally), to watch LIVE tv without a licence whichever channel you watch.

Not all of the licence fee money goes to the BBC, there is a small % that goes to the minority channels, CH4 & 5 spring to mind.

Check out the CAB's website, e.g. "You need a TV Licence to use any television-receiving equipment to watch or record TV programmes as they are being shown on TV. These include programmes on the BBC, ITV, Channel 4, Channel 5, cable and satellite television. Television-receiving equipment includes:.........."

"You don't need a TV licence if you only ever watch catch-up services, like BBC i-Player, that let you watch programmes after they have been broadcast."


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is that your way of saying that try as you might you cannot find reference to the licence fee or even a link to it on any other broadcasters website apart from the bbc?
how can you think that legislation made for the bbc alone has any jurisdiction over any other broadcaster? please provide some proof from another broadcaster that you need a licence to watch their programmes, oh, you can't, because there is none, or you would have provided it already, saying you need a bbc licence to watch channel 5 is like saying your car licence covers you to fly aeroplanes

Kurtis_Blue

kaya wrote: »

is that your way of saying that try as you might you cannot find reference to the licence fee or even a link to it on any other broadcasters website apart from the bbc?
how can you think that legislation made for the bbc alone has any jurisdiction over any other broadcaster? please provide some proof from another broadcaster that you need a licence to watch their programmes, oh, you can't, because there is none, or you would have provided it already, saying you need a bbc licence to watch channel 5 is like saying your car licence covers you to fly aeroplanes

Do your research other wise you may look like an utter fool, its very simple to read legislation rather than rely on third party discussion.

In fact I believe I gave a link to the raw legislation above some where in this months lunatic ramblings regarding such a simple matter.

paidinchickens

paidinchickens wrote: »

I do have a licence and have paid for one for many years!

What I am saying is there are a lot of people that say on here that you only need a licence for live feed bbc and this was confirmed by the survey man who was not doing a survey on tv licences but did one previously.

I am happy you like the BBC and get use out of it, this is not my point. My point is what about the people who do not use it and still pay for a licence I do not think that is fair. I do not watch sky movies so I do not pay for a service I do not require I also do not watch the sports channels for which I also do not pay.

The only programme I like to watch on the BBC is Top Gear so for me £145 is a lot for one programme.

Sorry my fault I should have put live TV.

I have had a letter from the MP incharge of the doodle flip dept saying it is FOR ANY LIVE FEED TV.

I am still nervous about stopping paying though incase they do not believe me

derrick

kaya wrote: »

is that your way of saying that try as you might you cannot find reference to the licence fee or even a link to it on any other broadcasters website apart from the bbc?
how can you think that legislation made for the bbc alone has any jurisdiction over any other broadcaster? please provide some proof from another broadcaster that you need a licence to watch their programmes, oh, you can't, because there is none, or you would have provided it already, saying you need a bbc licence to watch channel 5 is like saying your car licence covers you to fly aeroplanes

I cannot provide a link because there isn't one, I have said you are correct re that, but you are wrong if you think you don't need a licence to watch ANY channel as it is broadcast, your analogy to a car and plane is ridiculous, I have told you a small % is given to minority channels. It isn't just legislation for the BBC, it is a licence to allow you to watch LIVE broadcasts on receiving equipment!

Now go and lie down in a dark room, I think your meds are wearing off!


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movilogo

The whole TV license tax is a con! It should be abolished. Even most developing world countries do not have TV license!!

ElkyElky

I don't have a TV licence and I never have. My parents have never had one in their entire life either. (My parents are in their 50's so they've successfully evaded it for quite some time)

The trick is to close the door if you open it to an enforcement officer (or just your peek hole thingie and don't open it at all if you're not expecting anyone).

Whenever I buy a TV, they ask for your home address so they can give it to the TV licence people? I give a fake address. I don't really care what people think about people who evade the licence, they are robbing b**tards who won't be getting a penny out of me. Why should we pay a yearly fee to use a 90 year old invention? They can shove their licence where the sun don't shine.

Kurtis_Blue

movilogo wrote: »

The whole TV license tax is a con! It should be abolished. Even most developing world countries do not have TV license!!

I couldnt be bothered to check all countries that you may call "developing world countries" but most on the IMF list of emerging and developing economies do indeed have TV licences if you wish to show your research it would be very interesting reading.