TV licence query

Kurtis_Blue

birkee wrote: »

My earlier post:
"Why have a TV receiver if you don't want to use it as such?



This is obtuse, You don't need a TV receiver for these things. You need a monitor. The fact that you can't get the 40" monitor with HD, is not the fault of the TV transmitters. You choose to use something that has a TV receiver built into it.
A laptop than can receive TV transmission is not exempt.

They WILL try and prove you use a TV. They don't have to target everyone in the country to prove things, so you can hide in the crowd, they just target homes without a TV licence recorded at a particular address.

You are saying something to the effect of. If you have a car parked on your drive, which you use as a greenhouse or a toolstore etc, you are exempt from the motoring regulations. You're not!
It has to have tax and insurance, or have a SORN registration now. (New regulations coming in about now.) Even if your car is in bits.

You are confused, just because motoring law states one thing this does not impact the law with regards to TVlicencing.
The OP is not using her TV to watch live broadcast, she/he does not need a licence, this is not a grey area of law it is very clear in the legislation.
And you do not need to prove your innocence in the UK, as yet.

HappyMJ

birkee wrote: »

A laptop than can receive TV transmission is not exempt.

How do I detune my laptop from being able to receive TV transmission?

This page http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12307698 from BBC News has live coverage of the news but is recorded so does it need a licence?

caela_2

societys_child wrote: »

When you buy a new tv the retailer is required to provide your details to the authorities, you will then get harassed unless of course you buy a licence.

Bought my TV at ASDA, filled in the address details at the checkout and when the attendant turned his back, tore off both the top page AND carbon copy before returning the notepad lol. Obviously, you are only supposed to keep the top page for your own records, but it's an easy trick. Chuck the notepad down like you're finished, pop the pen back, big smile and quickly leg it! Hehe. Or you could buy second hand, no record there.

Chances are however, there is a TV registered to your house by a previous owner/ tenant, so they'll still write...

birkee

My point was, that whilst you may not use a TV receiver to watch TV transmissions, you are capable of doing so.
If you don't have a TV licence, there is a strong possibility that you house / property will be checked to see if you do have a TV receiver tuned in to TV broadcasts. If not, then they'll move on, and check again the next time they are in the area, they're not going to sit outside your house waiting for you to make a mistake though.

They can detect if you are tuned in to a TV transmission, and tell what channel. If you don't use the TV receiver, you'll probably be alright.
Don't forget though, my prior post, about the old lady that received a fine, who didn't even OWN a television. It's almost unimaginable these day, to believe that someone doesn't have a television, and they work on that basis. They'll try and catch you using it, even if you don't have one.

Favourite time for checking addresses without a licence, is on the occasion of a big event. Big match, bombings in London, Earthquakes in Japan, death of a monarch, crash of the stock market etc etc etc.
Even I can't believe some people never watch TV. The world must really pass them by.

birkee

caela wrote: »

Bought my TV at ASDA, filled in the address details at the checkout and when the attendant turned his back, tore off both the top page AND carbon copy before returning the notepad lol. Obviously, you are only supposed to keep the top page for your own records, but it's an easy trick. Chuck the notepad down like you're finished, pop the pen back, big smile and quickly leg it! Hehe. Or you could buy second hand, no record there.

Chances are however, there is a TV registered to your house by a previous owner/ tenant, so they'll still write...

Says it all! No wonder they use detector vans.
also,
what happens if a previous tennant asks for his unexpired licence to be transferred to their new address?

cajef

birkee wrote: »

My point was, that whilst you may not use a TV receiver to watch TV transmissions, you are capable of doing so.
Even I can't believe some people never watch TV. The world must really pass them by.

No your original point and the basis of your argument is that if you own a TV you need a licence, which as others have pointed out is complete rubbish, just because it is capable of receiving transmissions does not mean you have to have a licence, you only need one if you watch or record live broadcasts as they are being transmitted and it is up to them to prove you guilty of doing so, in our law you are innocent until proved guilty.

As it happens I have a licence as I watch TV, but contrary to your blinkered view I know several people that do not have a TV and the world has most certainly not passed them by.

lucylucky

birkee wrote: »

My point was, that whilst you may not use a TV receiver to watch TV transmissions, you are capable of doing so. But choose not to do so - no licence required.
If you don't have a TV licence, there is a strong possibility that you house / property will be checked to see if you do have a TV receiver tuned in to TV broadcasts. How strong a possibility? If a person does not have a licence how do they know if you even have a TV? If not, then they'll move on, and check again the next time they are in the area, they're not going to sit outside your house waiting for you to make a mistake though.

They can detect if you are tuned in to a TV transmission, and tell what channel. And how do they do this? If you don't use the TV receiver, you'll probably be alright. No probably about it - you will be "alright"
Don't forget though, my prior post, about the old lady that received a fine, who didn't even OWN a television. It's almost unimaginable these day, to believe that someone doesn't have a television, and they work on that basis. Almost unbelievable to some perhaps. They'll try and catch you using it, even if you don't have one.
That is a clever trick to catch someone using a TV if they don't have one. How do they do that then?

Favourite time for checking addresses without a licence, is on the occasion of a big event. Big match, bombings in London, Earthquakes in Japan, death of a monarch, crash of the stock market etc etc etc.
Even I can't believe some people never watch TV. Really? Seriously? The world must really pass them by.

There are a multitude of ways of getting information, the TV is but one. Life need not pass anyone by simply because they do not have a TV. What a bizarre thought.

triticale

birkee is either deluded or a TVL employee.

Detector vans are a complete myth, 'they can tell what channel is being watched' - what absolute b*llocks!

I do not watch live TV. I have no interest in 'the big match' or any of the other things you mention. I watch DVDs and the occasional documentary on iplayer. I get my news from the internet and to a lesser extent, radio (not BBC radio before you start).

The world does not 'pass me by', I live a full and happy life without soap operas/reality tv/adverts or any other junk associated with watching live TV.

Swan_2

I wrote out a reply to birkee's post #44, but I'm not much of a typist & it took me so long that cajef, luckylucky & triticale have more than covered everything I wanted to say.

Thanks to the three of you :T

birkee

triticale wrote: »

birkee is either deluded or a TVL employee.

Detector vans are a complete myth, 'they can tell what channel is being watched' - what absolute b*llocks!

I do not watch live TV. I have no interest in 'the big match' or any of the other things you mention. I watch DVDs and the occasional documentary on iplayer. I get my news from the internet and to a lesser extent, radio (not BBC radio before you start).

The world does not 'pass me by', I live a full and happy life without soap operas/reality tv/adverts or any other junk associated with watching live TV.

So the documentary I watched showing them doing this was fiction?