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Lib Dem Support down to 12%....

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  • baby_boomer
    baby_boomer Posts: 3,883 Forumite
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    If LibDem support is really down to 12% and stays there, then the new proposed AV voting system isn't going to help them at all in 2015 - even assuming it gets through Parliament.
  • monosodium
    monosodium Posts: 5 Forumite
    It was going to be a poisoned chalice for the LD's whichever way it went...
    - Join the Tories to form a coalition and get some but not all of their manifesto through
    - Join Labour (who I think it's fair to say nobody wanted, people voted labour as an anti-tory vote)
    - !!!!! from opposition benches

    Whatever way they were destined to get screwed so they may as well try to get some governing done... If we'd had the tories alone and not a coalition I think things could be a great deal worse today than they are.
  • RJP33
    RJP33 Posts: 339 Forumite
    They did the right thing, dunno why people are expecting a minority partner to have anything other than minor parts of their manifesto implemented.

    I really don't get the moaning, they actually have real power, the lib dem voters should be ecstatic.

    Better they actually try to get something done for the good of the country.
  • StevieJ
    StevieJ Posts: 20,174 Forumite
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    RJP33 wrote: »
    They did the right thing, dunno why people are expecting a minority partner to have anything other than minor parts of their manifesto implemented.

    I really don't get the moaning, they actually have real power, the lib dem voters should be ecstatic.

    Better they actually try to get something done for the good of the country.

    They are burnt toast, this is an EX Lib Dem voter writing.
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  • Spartacus_Mills
    Spartacus_Mills Posts: 5,545 Forumite
    Wheezy wrote: »
    Down to 9%.

    http://uk.news.yahoo.com/21/20101104/tuk-lib-dem-support-hits-new-low-poll-6323e80.html

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    ...down down deeper and down...


    All margin of error stuff.

    Still winning at a local level in council by-elections.
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  • Spartacus_Mills
    Spartacus_Mills Posts: 5,545 Forumite
    StevieJ wrote: »
    They are burnt toast, this is an EX Lib Dem voter writing.


    I can claim to be an ex-Labour voter as I have voted Labour in the past. It does not make me a bona fide Labour supporter.
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  • tomterm8
    tomterm8 Posts: 5,892 Forumite
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    baby_boomer wrote: »
    If LibDem support is really down to 12% and stays there, then the new proposed AV voting system isn't going to help them at all in 2015 - even assuming it gets through Parliament.

    That doesn't matter. The liberal party was out of power for 70 years. If thet get the AV system, the fact that it costs them their base for an election is relatively unimportant because they were never going to get into power under first past the post. In the long game, they will rebuild over the next decade or two, and have a decent chance of breaking through in 15 years time.
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  • RJP33
    RJP33 Posts: 339 Forumite
    StevieJ wrote: »
    They are burnt toast, this is an EX Lib Dem voter writing.

    I would have thought you'd be ecstatic that the Lib Dems finally will implement some of their manifesto?

    Or would you rather they we're permanently in opposition with no actual say?
  • Generali
    Generali Posts: 36,411 Forumite
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    tomterm8 wrote: »
    In the long game, they will rebuild over the next decade or two, and have a decent chance of breaking through in 15 years time.

    Why do you think that please?

    AFAICS they have no financial or geographic base. The Lib Dems are slowly dying and have been for as long as I can remember.

    People have now seen the reality of voting for a minority partner in a Government and they don't like it.
  • lemonjelly
    lemonjelly Posts: 8,014 Forumite
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    Generali wrote: »
    People have now seen the reality of voting for a minority partner in a Government and they don't like it.

    Gen, I think people are more angry with the fact that the Lib Dems have pretty much reneged on every manifesto pledge they had, except for the AV.

    That seems to be the bone of contention from what I can see...
    It's getting harder & harder to keep the government in the manner to which they have become accustomed.
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