Lib Dem Support down to 12%....

1984ReturnsForReal_2

robin_banks wrote: »

If thier 'main agenda' was getting voting reform as opposed to the economy, the NHs and the pointless wars in Iraq and Afghanistan (to name but three policies) then it seems a tad selfish.

& Trident.... :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

Wheezy_2

Nick Clegg, 19 March 2010:

http://www.lrb.co.uk/blog/2010/07/02/jenny-diski/who-are-these-people/

Nick_Clegg wrote:

Look, the decision on how we govern this country and how people vote shouldn't be driven by fear of what the markets might do. Let's say there was a Conservative government. Let's say a Conservative government announced, in that sort of macho way: 'We're gonna slash public spending by a third, we'll slash this, we'll slash this, we'll do it tomorrow. We have to take early, tough action.'
Just imagine the reaction of my constituents in south-west Sheffield. I represent a constituency that has more people working in public services as a proportion of the workforce than any other constituency in the country. Lots of people working in unviersities, the hospitals and so on.
They have no Conservative councillors. They have no Conservative MPs. There are no Conservative MPs or Conservative councillors as far as the eye can see in South Yorkshire. People like that are going to say: 'Who are these people telling us that they are are going to suddenly take our jobs away? What mandate do they have? I didn't vote for them. No one around here voted for them.'
I think if we want to go the direction of Greece, where you get real social and industrial unrest, that's the guaranteed way of doing it.

I'm suprised they still have 12%

Spartacus_Mills

Wheezy wrote: »

Nick Clegg, 19 March 2010:

http://www.lrb.co.uk/blog/2010/07/02/jenny-diski/who-are-these-people/



I'm suprised they still have 12%

They changed their mind before the coalition was formed.

As part of the negotiations with Labour, as stated by both sides on the "5 days that shook Britain documentary" last week, the Lib Dems told Labour they wanted immediate cuts as part of the negotiations.

1984ReturnsForReal_2

Spartacus_Mills wrote: »

They changed their mind before the coalition was formed.

As part of the negotiations with Labour, as stated by both sides on the "5 days that shook Britain documentary" last week, the Lib Dems told Labour they wanted immediate cuts as part of the negotiations.

Where is your absolute tosh comment now?


Has it suddenly hit you how much damage Cleggy & Co have done to your party? :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

Wheezy_2

Spartacus_Mills wrote: »

They changed their mind before the coalition was formed.

Sure...even before the election it seems. They just forgot to inform the voters

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/jul/29/nick-clegg-changed-mind-cuts

Lib Dem leader says he was in favour of a faster programme of deficit reduction before the general election – even though he did not publicly back the idea

tomterm8

Spartacus_Mills wrote: »

They changed their mind before the coalition was formed.

Here's the thing. I was, formerly, a Liberal Democrat. Part of being a Democrat is believing in the democratic process.

The democratic process involves two stages:

1. Candidates telling the public what they think, and what they would do if we give them power and
2. Informed citizens chosing from the alternatives.

I don't see much of point 1 from what you say. If the Liberal Democrats "changed their mind" a day after the election... why didn't they say so before the election?

One of the things that really depresses me about democratic government is that it is pretty clear to me that all three large parties will not tell you the truth prior to an election.

Really, I don't see the point of democracy if all the candidates are lying, theiving b******ds.

StevieJ

Spartacus_Mills wrote: »

They changed their mind before the coalition was formed.

As part of the negotiations with Labour, as stated by both sides on the "5 days that shook Britain documentary" last week, the Lib Dems told Labour they wanted immediate cuts as part of the negotiations.

Pity they didn't tell the electorate :eek:

Alan_Cross

I can't remember who it was but some Liberal prat on here was trying to argue with me many weeks ago that Clegg hadn't sold out and what a wonderful deal he'd got from Cameron.

I think it's clear from the poll figures that the electorate generally wouldn't agree.

Cameron is going to make exceedingly sure that AV - which itself is not remotely anything approaching PR - will not stand a snowball's.

I can only echo what more than one on here has said, namely that it is a shame that the electorate weren't informed before the General Election about this shameful, egomaniacal, personal power grab by Clegg and abandonment of principle.



Things might have turned out very differently.

nearlynew

They're all lying thieves anyway.

Do you think nick clegg is worried about letting down his core voters?


Is he f*ck.
He's just happy to be on the gravy cruise rather than the gravy train.

Wheezy_2

Down to 9%.

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/21/20101104/tuk-lib-dem-support-hits-new-low-poll-6323e80.html



...down down deeper and down...