A Disabled Charity And A PPC

robredz

HO87 wrote: »

"Pay the fine and get a reduced rate membership to Mobilise where we can advise you further", of course.

It begs the question, then whether membership of Mobilise will mean they are given a special sticker that compels the ppc to ignore the members vehicle, and not issue an invoice......

I thought not......

taffy056

robredz wrote: »

It begs the question, then whether membership of Mobilise will mean they are given a special sticker that compels the ppc to ignore the members vehicle, and not issue an invoice......

I thought not......

Also what happens if they are already a member ?

robredz

taffy056 wrote: »

Also what happens if they are already a member ?

They ignore the invoice and have no contact and resign their Mobilise membership. Or they go down a risky route and send a strongly worded letter to Mobilise telling them they are morally and ethically bankrupt for supporting the persecution of their members, by supporting this "industry" with it's questionable methods. They then resign their membership, and ignore the invoice. If enough did that, maybe Mobilise would wake up and smell the coffee. But I fear they would not, their snout is now firmly in the trough. Or they pay up, and still castigate Mobilise, and resign their membership.

Problem is if the victim goes down the contact route the ppc could try a Perky and progress for a flagship case at court supported BY Mobilise, who also stand to gain, by supporting the ppcs

Personally I would not want Mobilise to represent me.

taffy056

Happy New Year Mobilise PPC, are you having a good one? I am here again to bump your thread with another tale of woe of the discrimination of the disabled that you endorse, this person actually contacted your so called disabled charity to ask advice, and you were not interested, that is a surprise to me, is it because you don't earn commission from all the cowboy companies in the UK?

Joethereviewer wrote: »

Hi all, this is my first ever post on one of these sites and it was prompted by these ukcps "people". I should start by saying you should take the advice of everybody who is saying just ignore, I know this can be very stressfull and upsetting when you get clowns like ukcps threatening you with ccjs, court costs, debt collectors :rotfl:, who can do absolutly nothing, court action and other threats. But seriously these guys at ukcps are idiots, they send standard reply letters and when you ask them for photographic evidence of your so called crime they ignore you and send you another letter saying you havn't responded. I did the silly thing of appealing to these people, under the advisment of my MP, to absolutly no avail, as they don't want to know!! All they want is your £100 or whatever reduced rate they are offering through mobilise (I also phoned these guys up and told them of my situation, they too were not bothered so I wouldn't waste my time with them either). I got in touch with Trading Standards about this, and funnily enough, they also couldn'd care less. They told me to pay the fine as I would probably lose in court. At this point I should probably give you a brief outline of the situation I was in, a couple of month ago I was at a retail park in Lancashire doing a bit of crimbo shopping with my then pregnant girlfriend and her disabled mother, I should add at this point she has been disabled for many years and is a blue badge holder, although we left it in her husbands car. When we got to the shops I parked in a non disabled bay like I always do because I am a considerate driver but as we were in a three door 4X4 both of my passengers couldn't get out. So I moved the car literally 2 spaces down into a disabled bay, so they could get out safely. It took me about 5 mins to get them both out of the car and into the shops, in this time a UKCPS had spotted us vile law breakers and slapped me with a "Parking Charge". I have to say some people will be saying "why didn't you get them out of the car and then move it". Because I wanted to walk them into the shops as it was dark and wet and i'm a gentleman.
I went down all avenues to resolve this in a decent manner by sending them a copy of the blue badge and appealing to thier good nature. This didn't work, so I went online and looked up the blue badge scheme and the disability discrimination act and I pointed out to ukcps that the blue badge only applies on council property and the queens highways and could they reconsider?? And guess what, same old same old standard letter came through. So this is when I went to mobilise for help, like I said before DON'T BOTHER! The same to be said for my local Trading Standards. So I asked them to send me photographic evidence of my so called crime and need I say?? Yet again a standard letter came through saying they hadn't had a response from myself regarding this matter and because thier paperwork is shoddy they failed to send me the photo I requested. So in the I I had a look at the land registary to see who owned the retail park and I sent the manager of the park a letter with a photocopy of all letters sent forth and back and voila a letter from ukcps saying on this occasion they were willing to accept our appeal:huh:! Where did that come from????
So again my advice to all who come into contact with these people is ignore all letters and if they feel the need to send "debt collectors" to your house call the police and tell them someone is on your doorstep trying to force money out of you! Oh and btw if anyone knocks at your door and asks if you are such a person don't say YES, ask them who wants to know. Let them take you to court (UNLIKELY). No judge in the land is going to make you pay a parking fine of £100 to park on private land for an hour or two. I hope this helps people who find themselves in my situation or one similar. If worst comes to worst and they do take you to court there is alot of good people on this forum who i am sure would help you for the joy of seeing ukcps fall.

trisontana

UKCPS have won a court case against a disabled motorist. The reason they won was this (from "Alexis" on Pepipoo) :-

Our man couldn't attend court because he's now chronically disabled, so Peter (Haswell) was free to listen to the sound of his own voice.

Not justice when a disabled bloke parks in a disabled bay and then can't defend himself in person because he's erm, disabled.

I hope Peter enjoyed his drive from Huddersfield to Exeter, his stay in a hotel, and then back again. All for £150. Not justice is it? But that's the nature of small claims.



I hope Mobilise are proud of their partner's behaviour

taffy056

trisontana wrote: »

UKCPS have won a court case where they went after a disabled motorist. The reason they won was this (from "Alexis" on Pepipoo) :-

Our man couldn't attend court because he's now chronically disabled, so Peter (Haswell) was free to listen to the sound of his own voice.

Not justice when a disabled bloke parks in a disabled bay and then can't defend himself in person because he's erm, disabled.

I hope Peter enjoyed his drive from Huddersfield to Exeter, his stay in a hotel, and then back again. All for £150. Not justice is it? But that's the nature of small claims.



I hope Mobilise are proud of their partner's behaviour

Disgusting springs to mind, is there any chance this person can appeal in writing to the court now?

trisontana

Peter Haswell has now signed on to Pepipoo and is gloating about his win. Isn't he a nice individual?

esmerobbo

He was on CAG doing the same, quoting two cases he won, both for parking in a disabled bays without blue badge. The thread has now been removed, must have got a bit heated!

http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?showtopic=50228

http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?showtopic=52539&st=0

It seems on the Liverpool one Heswell used postings from Pepipoo, claiming the defence was contrived! The guy attended court alone and admits he bottled it a bit. The good news is he intends to appeal. Its worth remembering this when we post on here CAG and Pepipoo, not to give anything away!

The Liverpool guy has another claim as well for Aintree hospital he is defending!

http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?showtopic=54130&hl=

As regards the Exeter case I hope he is happy with his win and he sends his victory message to Mobilise, so they can feel proud of their ill-gotten gains. However he may believe he is the new Perry Mason of the PPC world. I cant see him winning business man of the year though can you. Huddersfield to Exeter, an overnight stay, fuel and food, time spent! How much did he lose proving a point which again may well be appealed and lost!

He also seems to like going after the disabled bay with no blue badge. I wonder if this is the reason he teamed up with Mobilise, so he could use this in court stating "look we are working with a disabled charity to stop abuse of disabled bays".[altough its not an abuse if your disabled your disabled blue badge or not] Then somehow the DJ gives them extra benefit in their case.

At the end of the thread in the Liverpool case, it seems Heswells appearance, arrogance and the kipper on him, really annoyed the defendant so much it made him more determined to lodge an appeal.

trisontana

I think the reason the CAG thread was removed was because of the use of the word "scum". I wonder who that was referring to?

esmerobbo

trisontana wrote: »

"scum".?

Now let me think???:cool: