Bread is bad for you!

jenniewb

GEEGEE8 wrote: »

The thread title is my choice, I don't need tips from someone, it was meant to be a lighthearted discussion on people's experiences and view based on the book I had just finished reading. Not an in depth discussion about how you are right and I am wrong.

Sorry but cutting out a section of your diet on the advice of a book and pseudo diet writer seems more then light hearted.

OK, I can see your hell-bent on doing whatever here, with whatever implications, I was not trying to say "I'm right your wrong" I was trying to balance the argument, (the title "bread is bad for you seemed very sweeping and unbalanced). There are good reasons for each side, I would have seen it as light hearted but your actions and what you have read as you describe would suggest otherwise, you seem very determined to follow just what you have read without maybe consulting a medic, dietitian or someone who could personalise the advice, this concerned me. I was trying to point out flaws in the argument so that you maybe would question it a bit more, maybe even go get some more personalised advice (eg doctor or blood test).

It just concerned me thats all, gluten problems are recognised and can be serious health risk, you can easily get these checked out with a doctor via a blood test.

Sorry for caring, I was actually trying to help, (even cak-handidly) I'll shut up now and let you get on with it.

GEEGEE8

I'm sorry, I had a bad day yesterday and was a bit rude to you jenniewb.. x (maybe it's those lack of carb mood swings lol). Seriously though I am sorry for being tetchy in my return post to you.

GEEGEE8

Oh and I must have listened to you because I had half a wholewheat pitta and some baby corn on the cobb with my dinner, so I'm still keeping some carbs in my diet.

Eric_Pisch

GEEGEE8 wrote: »

This gluten is turning out to be a bit of a devil ingredient. All I want to do is to feel better and if it means trying to reduce/cut out foods then I'm all for trying it.

I had a soya milk and yoghurt smoothy today with banana and blueberries. I've got to say it way delicious and I didn't get that tiredness I get when I have proper milk..

most of the problems people are getting with milk and gluten are down to the ways its being produced, messed about with chemicals and often modified to make other additives / ingredients

take bread if you make it properly (and slowly) most of the gluten is converted by the yeast, this takes too long for factory bread so they use a chemical to raise the bread super fast (and leaves most of the gluten still there) and oh look loads of people are starting to have issues with it

same as milk, they start weekly injecting cows with hormones and all sorts of other crap to increase yield and cow "health" and wow lots of people have suddenly become dairy intolerant

look at asthma in kids, loads of them suffer badly with it, they didnt 70 years ago and thats with air pollution getting better year on year, I haven't seen a yellow "smog" over london for 20 years now, but what is changing is the amount of food that's being messed about with


if you want to get an idea how they mess about with food watch Food Inc

Eric_Pisch

Van1971 wrote: »

No, of course not. I did and I feel so much better. Cutting gluten out doesn't mean you can't eat carbs, you can still eat rice and potatoes and corn based snacks. You need to give it at least a month to see the benefits as gluten sticks to your intestine like glue for weeks :eek:

if your are gluten intolerant it takes 3 months to clear, thinking about it i stopped getting mucus in my stool about 3 months after i gave up gluten, i had just assumed my IBS was getting better since i was eating veg and fibre

donquine

I adore bread. I could live off bread and butter alone and be very happy. But that's the problem - I could actually eat a loaf in one sitting if given the chance.

OH and I have stopped buying bread and I've lost a lot of weight. Granted, I've done exercise and eaten healthier food in general, but cutting out bread has really made a difference to me. I only eat it if if I'm out and it comes with a meal. No bread in the house means I can't pig out on it unless I'm prepared to go to the shops and buy some - laziness trumps piginess each time.

*Vikki*

I cant eat bread, it makes my tummy hurt and I bloat out to look 6 months preggers!

GEEGEE8

Good info Eric

I haven't had milk or bread (apart from wholewheat pitta) for about a week and a half, and I've noticed my stools do not smell bad anymore..

As much as it embarrases me, they did smell bad and I'm so glad that it seems to have stopped.

I have soya milk and yoghurt now, and the wholewheat pitta, maybe half a pitta with dinner at night..

melancholly

GEEGEE8 wrote: »

I find that bread is very bad for me and makes me feel awful, it's full of chemicals and has very little nutritional value.

my homemade bread certainly doesn't
mass produced cheap bread will be full of sugar and preservatives whereas homemade bread tastes nicer and is better for you.

i guess i agree with jenniewb that this is a bit of a broad brush stroke for me! cutting back on any carbs will help lose weight, but if you're combing diet changes with exercise, it's not advisable to go too far.

i always have wholewheat pasta and rice (and usually bread!) and that helps me to feel fuller for longer - but there is never ever a simple plan that works for everyone (sadly!).

Gers

I'd recommend reading a book called Life without Bread - opened my eyes to the 'evils' of carb addiction and I'm surviving alright without bread or potatoes or rice. And think of the candida infection too.... :eek:

Actually just read an interesting article in the hospital waiting room - this morning - from Running - Dec 09 which laid out the pros and cons of low carb/high protein and high carb/low fat arguments really well.

I have never lost anything other than heart and motivation on a low calorie diet, always felt hungry and always felt a failure. On the low carb way of eating it's the exact opposite.

What works for one is not always the answer for another.