new dla medicals

LittleTinker

Breast_Cancer_Survivor wrote: »

I know this post is a bit old now but wanted to update.

I sent an email to my MP Mr Chris Heaton on 25th July asking whether he would be signing EDM 393 but he didn't reply unfortunately.

Today I had a letter from the House Of Commons :eek:.

He states that he will not be singing the EDM 393 but reassure's me that DLA will not be cut or reduced from the people that need it & can genuinely demonstarate that they should be receiving DLA.

I'm really pleased that he took the time to write to me & the letter he wrote was very nice.

I wondered whether anyone else had heard back from their MP's regarding this matter.

That is the same letter that everyone gets in response. It is sent out automatically.

LittleTinker

sh1305 wrote: »

Can you explain why then, I've been told that as someone with bowel problems and visual impairment, I was told that wearing a nappy would solve my problem of not being able to wipe myself? Bearing in mind that, there is nowhere for me to change myself, issues with leaks, etc.

They went as far as to say I don't have problems with my bowels - funny how it's recorded in my medical notes and how I had to see a stomach specialist to rule out Coeliacs disease. They also claim that I don't have depression - it's recorded on my medical notes and I put the name of a person who knows everything that happened earlier this year.

I know for a fact they don't read forms - they told me that I don't need help with medication - I'm lucky if I can administer my medication myself without getting it everywhere. (I am now unable to tilt my head back - tilting my head back makes it easier) They've also constantly told me that I should have no problems reading - I'm lucky if I can read standard print.

The point made is that anyone can say anything to their doctor and to their consultant.

I could go to my doctor tomorrow and complain of various ailments.....I can then be sent to see a specialist who looks at me and examines me. I can say "oooo that really hurts" at appropriate moments too.
I could be prescribed tablets to help me (and maybe not take them) or be given surgery to explore whats going on.

Anyone can do all that and have nothing wrong with them.
Some people go to the lengths of exagerating how they feel though and dont all go as far as surgery.......some go all the way.

A DM has to make a descision based on several things:
What they know about the condition
What they might know about the patient
What they read from specialists etc
What they see from others suffering with the same thing etc
Lots of things are considered.

If they get someone's claim and read through it and it is so far removed from what they consider is the norm, then it poses a problem in that they do not know if the truth is being told. There has to be an average that they go by in the majority of cases.

The difficulty that these DM's now have trying to determin an individuals right to benefit, due to being inundated with unscrupulous claims, is obviously causing problems for the genuine claimants.

Something has to be done and unfortunately it means that the genuine claimants, the truly deserving, will have to come under the spotlight too.

As is always the case.................good things are always taken advantage of eventually and then everyone loses out.

cit_k

nannytone wrote: »

i used to volunteer for D I A L, and i filled in D L A forms. for every genuine claimant i filled in another 4, who got D L A that in my opinion they were not entitled to. I was told that it wasn't my job to judge but to fill in the information they gave me.

But..........
we all know how unfair the E S A medicals are. theres every possibility that the genuine claimants will fall foul and those who know how to work the system will succeed as always

First part, how do you

a) know they did get DLA
b) know tehy did not deserve it, I take it you are a doctor familiar with welfare legislation who has medically assessed these patients?

Second part, yes most likely the genuine will be the ones that suffer.

cit_k

krisskross wrote: »

And are you seriously telling me that with your almost nonexistent vision you are able to remove the tiny component parts of a computer and put it back together again?

What tiny parts?

The parts in a computer are not tiny.

They are quite large,virtually no one does component level repairs these days, its all board / drive swapping.

cit_k

Breast_Cancer_Survivor wrote: »

I know this post is a bit old now but wanted to update.

I sent an email to my MP Mr Chris Heaton on 25th July asking whether he would be signing EDM 393 but he didn't reply unfortunately.

Today I had a letter from the House Of Commons :eek:.

He states that he will not be singing the EDM 393 but reassure's me that DLA will not be cut or reduced from the people that need it & can genuinely demonstarate that they should be receiving DLA.

I'm really pleased that he took the time to write to me & the letter he wrote was very nice.

I wondered whether anyone else had heard back from their MP's regarding this matter.

Have you thought about writing back to ask why he will not be signing. And also to ask how what he says can be true, when its known that fraud rates are 0.5 percent on DLA, so 99.5 percent of DLA claimaints ARE GENUINE - so how can he support removing 20 percent of them, that is 19.5 percent of claimaints that are genuine that will no longer be supported as he claims.

I would ask him to explain in detail, or admit he is lying.

cit_k

LittleTinker wrote: »

Yes they do read it and no, they dont "make it up as they go along".

You seem very bitter which is likely due to being turned down repeatedly and because you feel that you ought to be awarded DLA you are critising their methods as the reason for your refusals.

The DM are fair, thorough, informed and honest..........and they most certainly are not stupid or thoughtless.

Im afraid they often do not read forms for IB etc properly.

Even the president of the tribunal service has slated the quality of decision making at the DWP. (read more)

Indie_Kid

LittleTinker wrote: »

A DM has to make a descision based on several things:
What they know about the condition
What they might know about the patient
What they read from specialists etc
What they see from others suffering with the same thing etc
Lots of things are considered.

If they get someone's claim and read through it and it is so far removed from what they consider is the norm, then it poses a problem in that they do not know if the truth is being told. There has to be an average that they go by in the majority of cases.

I mentioned a fairly common problem on my claim form. Their medical services said that I don't have that problem - yet, if you Google my medical condition, you will see that it's a common problem.

I've also been told things like "well, you don't get the help, so clearly don't need it" & "you can walk; so clearly have no problems with that". Yes, I can walk - but it's actually quite painful right now.

cit_k

krisskross wrote: »

Of course they read them. You're being silly now.

Must admit, I have seen no real evidence they do.

cit_k

LittleTinker wrote: »

The point made is that anyone can say anything to their doctor and to their consultant.

I could go to my doctor tomorrow and complain of various ailments.....I can then be sent to see a specialist who looks at me and examines me. I can say "oooo that really hurts" at appropriate moments too.
I could be prescribed tablets to help me (and maybe not take them) or be given surgery to explore whats going on.

Anyone can do all that and have nothing wrong with them.
Some people go to the lengths of exagerating how they feel though and dont all go as far as surgery.......some go all the way.

A DM has to make a descision based on several things:
What they know about the condition
What they might know about the patient
What they read from specialists etc
What they see from others suffering with the same thing etc
Lots of things are considered.

If they get someone's claim and read through it and it is so far removed from what they consider is the norm, then it poses a problem in that they do not know if the truth is being told. There has to be an average that they go by in the majority of cases.

The difficulty that these DM's now have trying to determin an individuals right to benefit, due to being inundated with unscrupulous claims, is obviously causing problems for the genuine claimants.

Something has to be done and unfortunately it means that the genuine claimants, the truly deserving, will have to come under the spotlight too.

As is always the case.................good things are always taken advantage of eventually and then everyone loses out.

since when has a decision maker used their own medical opinion, or based decisions on what they see others do, or how others behave?

They are not medically trained, they have to follow the decision makers guide, and surely it would be illegal for them to do as you say, they are not in a position to know what is the norm for a condition etc, they have to go by the evidence provided, not their own bias or what they know themselves surely?

LittleTinker

cit_k wrote: »

Im afraid they often do not read forms for IB etc properly.

Even the president of the tribunal service has slated the quality of decision making at the DWP. (read more)

We are discussing DLA on this thread.

ATOS and forms for IB are separate issues.