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Cameron 'slips up' over World War II history

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  • Thrugelmir
    Thrugelmir Posts: 89,546 Forumite
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    RJP33 wrote: »
    I strongly disagree, it's much better for us to have Turkey lean towards the west rather than the east for stability in the region.

    Plus Turkey is a secular country anyway.

    Turkey is pivotal in geographical terms. To the security of Western Europe.

    Iraq ~ southeast
    Syria ~ south
    Greece and Bulgaria ~ northwest
    Armenia, Georgia, and Iran ~ eastern
  • marklv
    marklv Posts: 1,768 Forumite
    RJP33 wrote: »
    I strongly disagree, it's much better for us to have Turkey lean towards the west rather than the east for stability in the region.

    Plus Turkey is a secular country anyway.

    The Turks are muslims and can never lean towards the West because they are not part of the West and never can be. And Turkey might officially be secular, but there are still strong and growing militant elements there. Turkey in the EU would result in millions more people heading for the UK to sponge on our benefits system and NHS - no thanks.
  • marklv
    marklv Posts: 1,768 Forumite
    ruggedtoast wrote: »
    I'm fairly sceptical about European "values". They seem to have been behaving themselves since WWII, I'm not sure thats long enough to establish a trend though.

    So what 'values' do you believe in, other than lining your own pocket I presume? And who is 'they'?
  • marklv
    marklv Posts: 1,768 Forumite
    Thrugelmir wrote: »
    Turkey is pivotal in geographical terms. To the security of Western Europe.

    Iraq ~ southeast
    Syria ~ south
    Greece and Bulgaria ~ northwest
    Armenia, Georgia, and Iran ~ eastern

    True, but then we have NATO to look after security. The EU has nothing to do with it.
  • ruggedtoast
    ruggedtoast Posts: 9,819 Forumite
    marklv wrote: »
    So what 'values' do you believe in, other than lining your own pocket I presume? And who is 'they'?

    What on earth are you on about?
  • marklv
    marklv Posts: 1,768 Forumite
    ruggedtoast wrote: »
    What on earth are you on about?

    I am commenting on your previous post.
  • ruggedtoast
    ruggedtoast Posts: 9,819 Forumite
    marklv wrote: »
    I am commenting on your previous post.

    I think you need to wind your neck in mate.
  • marklv
    marklv Posts: 1,768 Forumite
    ruggedtoast wrote: »
    I think you need to wind your neck in mate.

    I think you need to stop talking cr*p and explain yourself. Moron.
  • ruggedtoast
    ruggedtoast Posts: 9,819 Forumite
    marklv wrote: »
    I think you need to stop talking cr*p and explain yourself. Moron.

    Dont worry about it mate. You're sad enough as it is.
  • RJP33
    RJP33 Posts: 339 Forumite
    Thrugelmir wrote: »
    Turkey is pivotal in geographical terms. To the security of Western Europe.

    Iraq ~ southeast
    Syria ~ south
    Greece and Bulgaria ~ northwest
    Armenia, Georgia, and Iran ~ eastern

    Correct.

    The country has always been split between the west and east (literally in the case of Istanbul), whether the majority are muslims or not is irrelevant because that's not the law of the country.

    Turkey is officially a European country.
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