USA fingerprints

Need_More_Money_2

ts_aly2000 wrote:

It's not strange at all about the OP not wanting her kids to be fingerprinted!

Fingerprinted, DNA, iris scanned, given a number, stamped filed, put into a box.

This is all about CONTROL and FREEDOM. It's nothing to do with having something to hide.

Amercia can keep their daft country. Their lunatic president is responsible for this daft world we live in today as a result of bullying foreign policy and upsetting the hairy fanatical village people in these Far Eastern countries.

If I see a wasps nest, I don't walk up to it and poke it with a stick, and then complain that I've been stung.

This is all to do with freedom and human rights.

I'm sorry, but if people disagree with what I've said here, then my only response will be, reap as ye sow. I certainly don't want to be compliant and certainly do not wish to take part as a guinea pig while they systematically catalogue the whole human race.

You have heard the proposals about implanting microchips into newborn babies????

I am not a crackpot, but I don't agree with any of this. It's wrong, It's immoral, and it's socially flawed.

Whilst I can accept people having problems with the foreign policy of the US I don't see how fingerprinting in anyway affects my freedom. My only problem would be if it doesn't have any effect becasue then it would be a waste of money.

stiffnuts69

alison74 wrote:

[I dont think its strange, I am an honest (well most of the time) person in a job where I enforce the law and I have nothing to hide. Now I would have a slight problem with my fingerprints being taken. It may be a civil liberty thing or concern about the possible misuse of fingerprints stored on a database either by the authorities or criminals, but for whatever reason it does not rest well with me. Having said that I would of course not let it stop me from traveling.




You enforce the law in your job yet you are only honest 'most of the time' ??

And how on earth would the fingerprints being taken at the airport possibly be misused by authorities or criminals ??

I was about to say easily but thats not true. By the authorities- If they wanted to fit someone up?? (not likely but in the US you never know). criminals - what if they managed to hack into the database in order to get hold of someones finger prints in order to implicate them in a crime they did not commit. What about changing the database so that criminals now have "clean prints" there are many many ways they fingerprints may be misused and its not impossible.

The bit about being honest was a joke Im sorry you took it so literally.

alison74

criminals - what if they managed to hack into the database in order to get hold of someones finger prints in order to implicate them in a crime they did not commit

How can you use someone else's fingerprints to implicate them ? It is impossible. A scanned fingerprint could never be copied and left at the scene of the crime.

If it ever happens, I will apologise and eat this computer as punishment.


What about changing the database so that criminals now have "clean prints" there are many many ways they fingerprints may be misused and its not impossible.

Even if the criminal hacked in (highly unlikely) they would have to hack into the main police system in the US to get their prints cleared, not the US immigration which is what the original post and my thoughts on it is about.


The bit about being honest was a joke Im sorry you took it so literally

I just found it a strange thing to put in the same sentence as declaring you enforce the law.

jasonrat

ts_aly2000 wrote:

The trouble is that we don't live in a benevolent benign society. Society is corrupt and greedy.

And as for 'criminals' hacking into US computer systems.. These spotty teenagers in their bedrooms that have hacked into NASA and the Pentagon. Now either the US systems are completely crap, or they're being fitted up for a purpose.

Either way, you ain't having my fingerprints. I don't believe that the motives are sound.

lol one way or another your fingerprints will be taken in life whether you have stuff stolen from your flat(the police will need your fingerprints to omit you)or when the new passport comes in with bio what ever its going to be. ,aybe its plain paranoia or the drugs

ultrak3wl

alison74 wrote:

I am sure there is a reason behind you not wanting to get the kids fingerprints taken that you perhaps don't want to share on here - but are you really going to change your holiday destination because of it ??

I was the OP, didn't expect to get into a long debate about it but I do think having your fingerprints taken is a serious matter. Everyone knows that being fingerprinted is what happens to criminals basically, not people who want to go on holiday. Perhaps I'm just showing my age but my kids can decide for themselves when they're grown up.

dbuk44

Inoccent people have nothing to fear in having their fingerprints taken in America - the information is in safe hands.

Err, yeah,right.... :rotfl:

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angel

I've never been fingerprinted in my life and have no intention of having it done just to go on holiday! I'm happier going somewhere where I'm not treated like a criminal.

bobdauilda

they also take a stool sample for their latest database involving rectal identification which will come in useful when they decide to bf us all 'Tony Blair style' as old Bush has been doing for years now....

photome

angel wrote:

I've never been fingerprinted in my life and have no intention of having it done just to go on holiday! I'm happier going somewhere where I'm not treated like a criminal.

You may have to have fingerprints done just to get a passport soon,

Like I have said in previous posts I have been fingerprinted to get in to the USA and not given it a second thought.

Am I to trusting or are others just paranoid

alison74

photome wrote:

You may have to have fingerprints done just to get a passport soon,

Like I have said in previous posts I have been fingerprinted to get in to the USA and not given it a second thought.

Am I to trusting or are others just paranoid

This thread has had a variety of opinions that's for sure. I am with you.

I cannot believe that some people think getting your fingerprint digitally scanned upon entry to the US as 'being treated like a criminal'. HOW is it being treated like a criminal ??

I can't believe that people are willing to forego holidays to the USA and now to Thailand (as I mentioned in my previous post) just because they get their photo and fingeprints taken.

As you correctly pointed out, new passports will soon require you to give your fingerprint. Are people going to never travel again ???

Do these people also avoid all CCTV systems as they go about their daily life ?