disabled and parents parking

Doom_and_Gloom

atomicsheep wrote: »

But when you already have designated parking for holding a blue badge right outside the entrance, why do they need to pinch the the very few slots made available to us parents?

Maybe it's because we have a way harder time getting in and out of cars with a disability. A child is not a disability. It's a lot easier to get a child into a car than someone helping a disabled person in and out a car. A person with a baby/child *may* need a bit of extra space to help them out but it's almost a certainty that a person with a disability will need that extra space.

When I'm on crutches I need to open the door 2/3rds of the way open at least. When I'm using my wheelchair I have to open the door fully to get in and out. Seriously you try and get in and out of a wheelchair without opening the door fully then you will understand! I have to take off the removable side panal on the wheelchair and tranfer into the chair that way. Impossible without the car door open all the way.

Don't make the disabled out to be the selfish ones. They don't 'pinch' your P&C spaces, they use them because if the disabled bays are full they are the only other real option to them if they want to shop that day. If they can't get a disabled space and can't use the P&C spaces instead there isn't a chance in hell they can shop that day. Sometimes the disabled use shopping days as an actual day out of their house because they don't get out often.
As it is there are usually a lot more P&C spaces than disabled so your 'very few slots' comment is laughable really.

gregg1

Doom_and_Gloom wrote: »

Maybe it's because we have a way harder time getting in and out of cars with a disability. A child is not a disability. It's a lot easier to get a child into a car than someone helping a disabled person in and out a car. A person with a baby/child *may* need a bit of extra space to help them out but it's almost a certainty that a person with a disability will need that extra space.

When I'm on crutches I need to open the door 2/3rds of the way open at least. When I'm using my wheelchair I have to open the door fully to get in and out. Seriously you try and get in and out of a wheelchair without opening the door fully then you will understand! I have to take off the removable side panal on the wheelchair and tranfer into the chair that way. Impossible without the car door open all the way.

Don't make the disabled out to be the selfish ones. They don't 'pinch' your P&C spaces, they use them because if the disabled bays are full they are the only other real option to them if they want to shop that day. If they can't get a disabled space and can't use the P&C spaces instead there isn't a chance in hell they can shop that day. Sometimes the disabled use shopping days as an actual day out of their house because they don't get out often.
As it is there are usually a lot more P&C spaces than disabled so your 'very few slots' comment is laughable really.

Well said. I have also noticed recently in some shops that the P&C spaces are nearer to the door than the disabled spaces. What the heck is that all about?

atomicsheep

sarahg1969 wrote: »

Maybe the particular spot they choose is more suitable for them? Or maybe there are no disabled bays empty?

erm i said when there are an abundance of disabled spots available?? i.e. loads

atomicsheep

gregg1 wrote: »

Every slot is a parent slot apart from the disabled spaces. So you have far greater choice of where to park than a disabled person.

You have a child, not a disability!

I never said i did have a disability did I ?
Have you seen how tight some normal spots are to get out of, so no not every slot is a parent and child spot . Thats why they have designated one silly

atomicsheep

Spartacus_Mills wrote: »

Can I suggest you get over yourself and your overweening sense of entitlement.

P&C and disabled spots have no legal standing in a private car park and people can park where they want. If you don't like it, well, basically tough.

well am i not entitled to use the P&C spot if i have a young CHILD and want to park in the parent and CHILD spot??

I didnt know about disabled spots having no legal standing though so thanks for that. I know where i'm parking then when P&C are full!

Indie_Kid

atomicsheep wrote: »

well am i not entitled to use the P&C spot if i have a young CHILD and want to park in the parent and CHILD spot??

I didnt know about disabled spots having no legal standing though so thanks for that. I know where i'm parking then when P&C are full!

You haveNO right parking in a dis bay. Or is a child classed as a "disability" nowadays?

atomicsheep

cyberbob wrote: »

I'd actually say the opposite in most Supermarkets there are now more P&B slots than there are disabled spots

utter rubbish. Most supermarkets provide waaaaaay more disabled parking.

atomicsheep

CRANKY40 wrote: »

When my small son was younger I appreciated the child spaces because of the extra space to open the door and get his baby seat out. However, I will never as long as I live understand why they have to be right outside the supermarket. I can walk fine, and would have quite happily walked from the back of the car park in order to take advantage of extra door opening space.....

agreed. I need the space to get a buggy out and extra space to get car seat/carry seat out the car. Not too disimilar to disabled people.

All these people complaining that i dont need the parking space wouldnt be saying that if i bumped and scratched their car because i had no room to get out.

poet123

snugglepet20 wrote: »

As a parent of 3 pre-schoolers, yes you do need wider spaces to fit the children in and out of the car and do their seatbelts etc without taking the paint off the car next to you! I am not bothered where they are on the car park and in fact it is better if they are at the back because there is more chance of them being available. I do not mind if a disabled person takes up the child space if they need to but if there weren't so many idiots abusing the system this wouldn't be an issue.

The idea is simply one of courtesy, not what you can get away with, whether fines are inforcable and so on. If you are an able-bodied person without a child in a carseat you do not need a special space and should not take one up. Try thinking how you would feel if every step caused you pain and someone in a sports car made you park 200 yards from the door.

I have had 4 children and never needed a wider space, I just had to to take a little care.:D

atomicsheep

Sooler wrote: »

probably if they are parents with children.

a problem might parents who have children - but not with them at the time, but they still park there anyway. there's never any signs saying you have to have children with you.

this is another problem with the spots. However my ASDA store says you must have a child with you in order to use the spot and you can be fined otherwise for using them