disabled and parents parking

Broken_hearted

Sigh. parents without the ability to figure out how to use a normal parking bay safely and have nothing better to do than whine about those selfish disabled people. No wonder society is screwed.

Becles

sarahg1969 wrote: »

So, would you be happy with very fat people using the P&C spaces?

Funnily enough, I do think it would be highly amusing if the wide spaces right outside the main door were labelled "fatties or lazy people spaces" :rotfl:

trisontana

cherub1965 wrote: »

i know that,the majority of people are ok,as always you just get the few idiots who will read they can park anywhere and will deliberately park in disabled bays so they can get a ticket and ignore it:o.some just love confrontation no matter who it is with.get a lot of it were i live unfortunately.

Some people will pay up because they think that it'as somehow official, or they get intimidated by threatening letters. For example this is a posting from the Consumer Action Forum:-

I post this on behalf of my parents who have had a very unfortunate run in with a car park patrol. The background is that they went to a shop and parked in the free car park provided, they used a disabled bay as they have a blue badge. In a hurry they forgot to display the badge and five minutes later on realising their mistake they went back to the car. They had already been issued a ticket. The car park attendant was still there, so they explained their mistake and showed him their blue badge. He told them that he was a traffic warden (sic) and it was tough luck.

Those people actually paid-up because they thought that it was all official and they had to pay. Of course that guy wasn't a "traffic warden", he was an employee of the PPC.

Rolandtheroadie

Disabled and P&C spaces are designed these days to give direct access to a walkway which in turn leads directly to the front door. Why? because the people that use them could be considered to be more vunerable.
This is because your average, ignorant, my cars better than yours !!!!!! is normally trying too hard to get a wider space. Or if theres no wider spaces left, they'll take up 2.
They're too busy and full of self importance to notice someone in a wheelchair, or a buggy, or a toddler when they're flying round the car park to beat their double coming the other way to the last parking space(s) within 50 yds off the front door.
You can dress it up any way you want. You do it because your selfish.

NEH

Salz wrote: »

I too would have no problem with the P&C spaces being at the back of the car park. I have a 2 year old in a car seat, so the P&C space makes it easier to strap them in. If there are none available then I will park right at the outside of the car park, but you can guarantee someone will come and park right up next to the drivers side so I can't get my child safely strapped in.

NEH I don't know how old you are, but yes it wasn't a problem when I was growing up because a) there weren't as many car's on the road and b) you didn't have big supermarkets and great big 4x4's everywhere.

There were a fair amount of cars about in my young days and there weren't dedicated car parks back then, you parked in the multi storeys and made do...

andyrules

sh1305 wrote: »

And prams weren't big SUV type things.

Actually they were! I had a big comfy Silver Cross - it came to pieces so you could stow it in the boot. This, of course, was before P&C spaces, and I could post DD through any space big enough to fit her head, and strap her in. We were both able walk too;)

Now my elderly mum has a Bluebadge, I find that the amount of spaces for her are way below that given to P&C. Of course it is a financial incentive, families buying nappies are much more welcome than someone looking for individual tins of beans!

We park in P&C when the disabled are full, as they so often are. Disabled people actually NEED the space and proximity to the door.

I have noticed that Sainsburys have more disabled spaces than Morrisons or Tesco - suggesting that the latter two have their sights set firmly on the family.

Becles

NEH wrote: »

There were a fair amount of cars about in my young days and there weren't dedicated car parks back then, you parked in the multi storeys and made do...

Why just make do if there is an easier and better way of doing things?

Does just managing and making do apply to disabled people too? In my younger days, there were not as many disabled parking spaces, not as many ramps and accesible places or public transport, and not as many disabled toilet facilities.

If we all had to just manage and make do, we'd still be doing laundry with poss tubs and mangles, cooking on an open fire and getting washed in a tin bath in the living room!

jblack_2

The simple solution to all this would be if the supermarkets were to sacrifice a small amount of spaces and increase the width of ALL of them in the car park. Not necessarily to the same size as a P&C or Disable bay. I don't think I've ever been to a car park that has been completely full so it wouldn't lose trade. I personally have no problem with parking further away if the spaces are a decent size. It only seems to be the last few years that spaces have become thinner and thinner, unfortunately there will always be people who don't care about their own car and think nothing of opening their door onto yours.

NEH

Becles wrote: »

Why just make do if there is an easier and better way of doing things?

Does just managing and making do apply to disabled people too? In my younger days, there were not as many disabled parking spaces, not as many ramps and accesible places or public transport, and not as many disabled toilet facilities.

If we all had to just manage and make do, we'd still be doing laundry with poss tubs and mangles, cooking on an open fire and getting washed in a tin bath in the living room!

Yes but my point was that P and C spaces are no great evolution, yes they make things easier but just because you have a child doesn't mean you should get special treatment, anymore than i should....

There is nothing to stop you parking further away is the point a lot of people are making on here....

If we were to each get a space based on our "status" then we would have senior spaces, married couple spaces, owner and dog spaces and so on...:rotfl:

Becles

NEH wrote: »

Yes but my point was that P and C spaces are no great evolution, yes they make things easier but just because you have a child doesn't mean you should get special treatment, anymore than i should....

There is nothing to stop you parking further away is the point a lot of people are making on here....

Yes - I made that point further back in the thread that P&C spaces should be further away from the store doors.

So if that is a workable solution, why should parents have to manage and make do with normal spaces? It's in the stores best interest to make shopping with children easier to encourage parents to shop there. That's why baby marketing is so agressive.