Millions of Americans lose all jobless benefits

wageslave

Malcolm. wrote: »

Hi wageslave, I disagree as usual .

Having been to poor areas of America, I didn't like what I saw, many homeless people in bad health actively begging - stopping people in the street or following them.

I'm pro the UK having a safety net, so long as that safety net doesn't afford a better standard of living than those working. Clearly, at the moment, it does (for many) and needs total reform.

Have you bought any new boots recently?

I will start with the important stuff, I bought the most fantastic pair of ankle boots yesterday. Cobalt blue to match a top I bought.

Now we got that out of the way.........

If it was here and I was in charge, I would create some kind of safety net because neither I, or anyone else in this country, is a total see you next tuesday.

You work hinney, you get up every morning and you roll in, and lets be honest here, you'd rather not. I'd rather not either.

I dont mind working minding to keep my daughter or the woman two doors down who for real reasons can't keep hers. That's my duty, my obligation as a parent and a citizen.

I am fu cked if I will turn up everyday to keep a legion of idlers in a house and even basic food.

With a few exceptions (mostly the old, the very young and the infirm) let them get cleaning jobs.

If I had no alternative, I would scrub floors. To keep your family, so would you.

What makes them so fu cking special?

mardatha

Yes, well. People are quick to shout about making people fend for themselves. Would you like to go back to the days of small children with rickets and impetigo and chilblains. Would you like to go back to that ? Would you like it to be your kids ? And dont tell me it didnt happen - because it did. And can easily happen again.

StevieJ

wageslave wrote: »

Or mine.

Re your quotation, you ever read Horace?

Vilius argentum est auro, virtutibis aurum.

He has a good turn of phrase :beer:

nunc est bibendum

Malcolm.

wageslave wrote: »

I will start with the important stuff, I bought the most fantastic pair of ankle boots yesterday. Cobalt blue to match a top I bought.

Now we got that out of the way.........

If it was here and I was in charge, I would create some kind of safety net because neither I, or anyone else in this country, is a total see you next tuesday.

You work hinney, you get up every morning and you roll in, and lets be honest here, you'd rather not. I'd rather not either.

I dont mind working minding to keep my daughter or the woman two doors down who for real reasons can't keep hers. That's my duty, my obligation as a parent and a citizen.

I am fu cked if I will turn up everyday to keep a legion of idlers in a house and even basic food.

With a few exceptions (mostly the old, the very young and the infirm) let them get cleaning jobs.

If I had no alternative, I would scrub floors. To keep your family, so would you.

What makes them so fu cking special?

Your posts are like mini stories.

I find it ironic that just as mayn who have worked appear to be at risk of being made redundant, the safety net is to be reduced. The idlers and labour MPs have been spending their tax monies and then some.

I agree, if required I'd clean toilets to avoid my family going without. It's an in built work ethic, where it comes from, family(?), friends(?), colleagues(?), genetics(?), I don't know.

wageslave

StevieJ wrote: »

He has a good turn of phrase :beer:

nunc est bibendum

By all means blame the booze


Seriously where do we go from here?

I have had it working for the idle.

It is not that I have any problem working for the honestly needy. I iexpect them to be there for me when I am equally desperate.

When the useless are a small percentage of the population, I am fine with that. For the rest, I am tired of grafting to keep you.

Go work in MacyD's or get a cleaning job.

I would

pop_gun

we can't have full employment, so there will always be unemployed people who CAN'T work because there isn't a job for them to do.

wish alot of you would get off your high horses and realise soon you'll be talking about yourselves (because you'll be on benefits!)

PasturesNew

The problem is earnng enough in these "little jobs", which are usually part-time and difficult to knit two together. The cost of a roof over your head is too high. Top up benefits isn't the answer to that, the answer is lower rents, so lower house prices. It needs to be that things are affordable, without top ups.

There does need to be a pecking order of hand outs too.

e.g. (completely making figures up to demonstrate a comparison)
- Never worked, or less than 5 years in whole-of-life, £30/week for rent
- Worked for 5-15 years of life, £40/week
- Worked 15-25 years, £50/week
- Worked 25+, £60/week

Some pecking order to strive for. And none of this "getting your card marked as you stayed at home with the kids", this should be for proper work, full-time. No messing about, no ifs/buts. Years of pure hard graft only.... paying in.

Oldernotwiser

"For nearly two years, Coleman says she has filed an average of 30 job applications a day, but remains jobless.
"People keep telling me there are jobs out there, but I haven't been able to find them." "

How can someone apply for 30 jobs a day for two years but also say that there are no jobs?

PasturesNew

Oldernotwiser wrote: »

"For nearly two years, Coleman says she has filed an average of 30 job applications a day, but remains jobless.
"People keep telling me there are jobs out there, but I haven't been able to find them." "

How can someone apply for 30 jobs a day for two years but also say that there are no jobs?

Well, a job advert is not a job if you don't get it.

Generali

PasturesNew wrote: »

The problem is earnng enough in these "little jobs", which are usually part-time and difficult to knit two together. The cost of a roof over your head is too high. Top up benefits isn't the answer to that, the answer is lower rents, so lower house prices. It needs to be that things are affordable, without top ups.

Nail/head!

The trouble with subsidising low wages is that this pushes up the price of everything so you need to subsidise wages! It does nothing to increase peoples' standards of living, it just costs the rest of us.