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is that al megrahi still alive? nearly a year after his release - another lefty

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  • ninky_2
    ninky_2 Posts: 5,872 Forumite
    mbga9pgf wrote: »
    Not according to the jury that convicted him.

    who could only go on the evidence that was presented to them. the fact he had grounds for appeal suggests that the evidence they were presented with was incomplete / inaccurate etc. many convictions by jury have been overturned for these reasons.
    Those who will not reason, are bigots, those who cannot, are fools, and those who dare not, are slaves. - Lord Byron
  • IveSeenTheLight
    IveSeenTheLight Posts: 13,322 Forumite
    StevieJ wrote: »
    I don't know, do you?

    I don't either but he's another conspiracy killer.
    :wall:
    What we've got here is....... failure to communicate.
    Some men you just can't reach.
    :wall:
  • IveSeenTheLight
    IveSeenTheLight Posts: 13,322 Forumite
    ninky wrote: »
    who could only go on the evidence that was presented to them. the fact he had grounds for appeal suggests that the evidence they were presented with was incomplete / inaccurate etc. many convictions by jury have been overturned for these reasons.

    Which brings me back to my point
    Totally agree with the bold part, however on the conviction, it seems hard to believe such a thing.

    When you hear of so many cases where the defence get's off on a technicality, was Megrahi's defence so incompetant that there was sufficient proof to convict an innocent man?
    :wall:
    What we've got here is....... failure to communicate.
    Some men you just can't reach.
    :wall:
  • neverdespairgirl
    neverdespairgirl Posts: 16,501 Forumite
    Then the justice system should be questioned.
    As it is (until proven otherwise) he is a convicted criminal.

    I agree, ti should be done that way. His appeal was dropped when he was released, though.
    ...much enquiry having been made concerning a gentleman, who had quitted a company where Johnson was, and no information being obtained; at last Johnson observed, that 'he did not care to speak ill of any man behind his back, but he believed the gentleman was an attorney'.
  • neverdespairgirl
    neverdespairgirl Posts: 16,501 Forumite
    Totally agree with the bold part, however on the conviction, it seems hard to believe such a thing.

    When you hear of so many cases where the defence get's off on a technicality, was Megrahi's defence so incompetant that there was sufficient proof to convict an innocent man?

    Such as? There are very, very few cases where someone "gets off on a technicality", outside Daily Mail Planet, anyway.
    ...much enquiry having been made concerning a gentleman, who had quitted a company where Johnson was, and no information being obtained; at last Johnson observed, that 'he did not care to speak ill of any man behind his back, but he believed the gentleman was an attorney'.
  • neverdespairgirl
    neverdespairgirl Posts: 16,501 Forumite
    mbga9pgf wrote: »
    Not according to the jury that convicted him.

    Wht jury? It wasn't a jury trial!
    ...much enquiry having been made concerning a gentleman, who had quitted a company where Johnson was, and no information being obtained; at last Johnson observed, that 'he did not care to speak ill of any man behind his back, but he believed the gentleman was an attorney'.
  • purch
    purch Posts: 9,865 Forumite
    I love reading these arguments where nobody really knows what they are talking about, and then resort to using Wikipedia :eek:to back themselves :rotfl:
    'In nature, there are neither rewards nor punishments - there are Consequences.'
  • mbga9pgf
    mbga9pgf Posts: 3,224 Forumite
    Wht jury? It wasn't a jury trial!

    OK then, in the case of the judge who decided the trial. If he chose trial by judge, it was his decision to live with. The guy is a convicted mass murderer, deal with it. The guy should have been executed in his sleep rather than dragged through trial anyway. Guilty B@stard.
  • Degenerate
    Degenerate Posts: 2,166 Forumite
    edited 14 July 2010 at 10:35PM
    Then the justice system should be questioned.
    As it is (until proven otherwise) he is a convicted criminal.

    Else we could release any other criminals where people 'think' the conviction is very shaky

    So are you saying it would have been preferable to let him die in jail while the wheels of justice slowly turned to eventually exonerate him posthumously?

    Many reasonable people were staggered by the court's verdict on the non-evidence it was presented with.
  • mbga9pgf
    mbga9pgf Posts: 3,224 Forumite
    If there wasnt sufficient evidence, the CPS would never have raised the case.

    There was plenty of evidence, there are too many conspiracists and lefty idiots that want to blame the system though.
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