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Living together - does he become liable for her children?

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  • icklejulez
    icklejulez Posts: 1,209 Forumite
    Im in a similar position my boyfriend has just moved in and had to automatically take responsibility for my two chidren but fortunatly he is proud to do this and treats them as his own. In terms of finances he is now automatically responsible as people have said to support his new family. I would advise you to phone the tax credits asap to sort the payments out I think there phone number is 0845 300 3900 and you can start the claim from the date he moved in (although I think they only backdate is so many weeks approx 6). If you look through my previous posts RE tax credits you will read the lies that I have ben told by them and the fact that the staff on the helpline are useless so dont go by everything they say. With me pestering them every other day I have got my joint claim sorted in 8 weeks so be prepared for the delay. However they do pay a fair bit, If F wants to put any of these children into after school clubs etc they also contribute towards these which would also allow her to do a little bit of work and get her out the house. If she can work over 16 hours her tax credits will increase. I think there is also a 30 hour mark as well if she works over this it jumps up again. Without working I would go round the twist. It is hard work but Its also good for my marbles.
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  • debrag
    debrag Posts: 3,426 Forumite
    deedee71 wrote: »
    I expressed my uneasiness at the beginning of the thread.

    Now the OP has said he is a software engineer earning £105,000pa I am starting to think this couple may be playing on the sympathies of a benevolent relative.

    Some of the phrasing does either smack of outrageous viewpoints or naivity (sp). I have some sympathy as up until my marriage breakdown a few years ago I had no idea about jobcentres, housing benefit, tax credits etc. It's a steep learning curve!

    Personally OP I think your heart is in the right place. you've made a good start with the entitled to website and perhaps F and M just don't have the where-with-all to tackle this situation.

    But as another poster has said, no one is going to hand tax credits to them on a plate. They must complete the forms accurately and submit them with any necessary paperwork as soon as possible. Remember, claims are rarely backdated so get things moving along soon.

    To request a pack just google the tax credits helpline and have National Insurance details to hand. Then when the forms arrive you will be able to help this couple sort out their mess.

    Good luck.

    The OP is the enginer.
  • Oldernotwiser
    Oldernotwiser Posts: 37,425 Forumite
    debrag wrote: »
    The OP is the enginer.

    That's what deedee71 said!
  • debrag
    debrag Posts: 3,426 Forumite
    That's what deedee71 said!

    I read it as she was saying the bf was the enginer not the OP sorry.
  • sulkisu
    sulkisu Posts: 1,285 Forumite
    edited 13 July 2010 at 5:43PM
    Benefits aside, one solution would have been for the mother to work, which would have increased the family income. The oldest three children are of school age, so this was at least a possibility. However, as a couple they chose to have another child at this time (nothing wrong in that), but this will have limited the families options at least for the time being - until the child is older. So while he may not be responsible for her three older children, there are undoubtedly financial consequences to the choices that they have made together - especially when you consider that her benefits (the money which would have provided for her three older children) were stopped when he moved in with her.
  • JSB43
    JSB43 Posts: 67 Forumite
    DX2 wrote: »
    Whether M is the biological father or not he entered into a relationship with F and as such yes he becomes liable for her children,


    Is that your opinion, is that a statutory liability?
    DX2 wrote: »
    Did she just automatically assume that when M moved in they wouldn't be entitled to anything?

    F didnt assume anything. She contacted the authorities before M moved in and told her to contact them again after M has moved in. Now F is passed from pillar to post and left with no money to feed the kids. We stepped in - and hence my posting on this forum.
  • JSB43
    JSB43 Posts: 67 Forumite
    viktory wrote: »
    Why does the OP constantly keep referring to M's daughter?

    Because she is.
    viktory wrote: »
    Does he not consider that the other children have needs such as food and clothing?

    Yes, but its got to the point M's income cannot provide for any of them let alone his daughter.
    viktory wrote: »
    Why has no one investigated why tax credits are being delayed?

    F has spoken to her MP and I understand the parliamentary ombudsman is on the case. Well & good but there is still no food on the table.
  • JSB43
    JSB43 Posts: 67 Forumite
    AnxiousMum wrote: »
    OP - glad you are trying to find some help for M and F. But this post does point out the very need for life insurance, particularly if you have young children! I assume the father of F's children did not have any to ensure his children were provided for in the event of a sudden loss of a parent?

    Hingsight is a wonderful thing isnt it?
  • JSB43
    JSB43 Posts: 67 Forumite
    sh1305 wrote: »
    If he's earning that much, I seriously doubt they'd get any tax credits.

    Why would I need to claim tax credits or state benefits?
  • JSB43
    JSB43 Posts: 67 Forumite
    sh1305 wrote: »
    If he's earning that much, I seriously doubt they'd get any tax credits.

    Back on topic.

    Lots of guessing and snap-judgments being handed down, can the armchair commentators please stick to the facts.

    Does anyone know the regulations that states a non biological parent becomes liable for children by virtue of living with the childrens mother?
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