Living together - does he become liable for her children?

viktory

JSB43 wrote: »

Does anyone know the regulations that states a non biological parent becomes liable for children by virtue of living with the childrens mother?

This has been answered - in the eyes of the law, benefit payments take into account all income. Even that of a reluctant step parent.

Alleycat

JSB43 wrote: »

If that what this forum is all about? collecting points?

No, it's about manners and common courtesy. I took time to find you the information you were asking for and you totally ignored it. I don't know why I bother sometimes. Oh and I didn't mean the thanks button.

KimYeovil

God, I feel sorry for the three mites. Imagine: "Children, M and I are going out on our date night tonight to see 'Heartbreaker'. Uncle JSB's coming round to look after you." "Noo!! Please, Mummy, can't Princess go round to see JSB by herself. Could we just hang around outside the cinema playing in the gutter?"

Their fairy-tale storybooks and trips to the pantomime are going to be very disturbing.

calleyw

JSB43 wrote: »

Because he has told me. I think he is very brave to have stuck it out this far.

Sorry what do you mean by brave? By having no money. I watched my husband learn to walk again after stroke even though he had no feeling of the floor. I call that brave.

I really don't get all of this. A man has moved in with a mother with 3 children they have another child together. And he wants a legal defination of if is liable for the other children. Because he thinks he should not support them. They are family unit.

When a partner moves in it can approx 6 weeks for a new tax credit claim.

I think someone is being taken for a ride. So the council and the tax office have lost all the forms for claims for tax credits and CT benefit and housing benefit.

Is anyone ringing the council and tax credits to see how the claims are going.

If the forms have been lost where not copies taken so new forms could be re-filled in again.

Unless a mother is abusing a child a father normally does not have cat in hells chance of getting custody.

And she can legal aid where he would not be able to.

I think I smell a troll.

Yours

Calley

divastrop

JSB43 wrote: »

Because he has told me. I think he is very brave to have stuck it out this far.

A man who says he could leave and take 'his' daughter with him, away from her mother and siblings, sounds somewhat emotionally abusive to me.
As others have said, it is not likely the courts would be willing to separate a family in this way unless the mother was abusing the daughter.

On a lighter note, I must go and tell my DH how 'brave' he is, although he is far braver than 'M' because not only did he take on me and 3 kids, but he adopted my younger son and applied for PR for my older 2. :rotfl:

AnxiousMum

JSB43 wrote: »

If that what this forum is all about? collecting points?

I had the benefit of the doubt thinking you might actually be genuine - but for a 'newbie' to make the above comment, you are obviously here to raise an argument - a newbie simply wouldn't come up with that type of a comment. Ever thought of getting a hobby to keep you occupied and away from public forums?

julie03

LittleMissAspie wrote: »

I think everyone is reading this wrong. It sounds like the couple have applied for benefits and are getting fobbed off, leading them to think they aren't entitled to anything. Which leads OP to wonder if there is some law that says the man isn't responsible for the 3 kids that aren't his and therefore they can make a claim for benefits for those 3 which will then mean enough money to live on.

finally someone who sees things the right way

DX2

julie03 wrote: »

finally someone who sees things the right way

Really? Yes I can understand that there may be a delay in tax credits going from a single claim to a couple claim. I do find it interesting that the OP dodged a few questions that I asked, like the age of the youngest child. Quotes below one minute the OP doesn't know where to claim HB, the next minute "they are lost in the system"

JSB43 wrote: »

M can claim tax credits, but is persistently fobbed off with delays and amount awarded will make little significance to their current situation.

JSB43 wrote: »

Well done julie03 and MrsBartolozzi £230.05 should be the figure they get in tax credits. It does solve their financial problems provided its accurate and the rules remain unchanged.

JSB43 wrote: »

F's benefits were stopped because she told them M had moved in. Do you know what kind of help, if any, F & M can get with housing and council tax? and where do they go to get that help?

JSB43 wrote: »

I think the town hall should now be on our calling list. Thank you.

Oldernotwiser wrote: »

And why haven't they applied for Housing Benefit and help with their Council Tax?

JSB43 wrote: »

They have, several times, the latest excuse today is its "lost in the system" and there will be another three week delay.

AnxiousMum

DX2 wrote: »

Really? Yes I can understand that there may be a delay in tax credits going from a single claim to a couple claim. I do find it interesting that the OP dodged a few questions that I asked, like the age of the youngest child. Quotes below one minute the OP doesn't know where to claim HB, the next minute "they are lost in the system"

Exactly DX2 - Also denied being family, but then pointed out that yes someone had spotted where he was in fact family. It's too bad that people either come on to this forum to troll and cause a disturbance, or, again giving the benefit of doubt, coming on looking for answers to questions when the situation changes from one post to another. This is a great forum that offers alot of help to people - but when people can't even be honest and forthcoming with info to get the help that they need on an anonymous forum like this - makes you wonder what they are like with the decision makers on the cases, and just why they have problems getting the help they need from them. It's posters that act in this way that spoil the forum for the genuine people who are really looking for help.