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How are third and pass degrees regarded these days?

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  • melancholly
    melancholly Posts: 7,457 Forumite
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    Doctors just like a complex grading scheme.
    can we move the thread away from attacking an entire profession?!
    some doctors are great, some aren't so good...... it's not really fair to make judgements about them all.
    :happyhear
  • studentphil
    studentphil Posts: 37,640 Forumite
    can we move the thread away from attacking an entire profession?!
    some doctors are great, some aren't so good...... it's not really fair to make judgements about them all.
    My post was not an attack on doctors but my view their grading system is complex
    :beer:
  • clairec79
    clairec79 Posts: 2,512 Forumite
    I would image that medical degree exam work on the same way as nursing midwifery, if you get 100% of the answers write but spell the word slighly incorectly you'll only get 50% (but still recognisable, obviously a hypo instead of hyper would be wrong) but you stick in a pitutary gland instead of a pituitary and you've lost a mark even though you clearly know what the answer is (my fall down was lambdoidal, I kept missing out the b, you don't pronounce it.

    You also have the practical side of things for emergencies which prove you are SAFE, that is just pass or fail and you have to get them right
  • cupid_s
    cupid_s Posts: 2,008 Forumite
    The average mark on my course is 2.2 which is what it should be.

    for most degree courses about 5% of graduates get 1sts. about 60% get 2:1s and 30% get 2:2s. Therefore the mean, median, and mode mark is usually (or should be) a 2:1.
  • on my course it was roughly 5% firsts, 45% 2:1, 45% 2:2, 5% 3rd (BSc Genetics, Liverpool Uni 2001)

    And i got 58.5% - 2:2. Doh, shouldn't have tried harder on my disertation
  • studentphil
    studentphil Posts: 37,640 Forumite
    for most degree courses about 5% of graduates get 1sts. about 60% get 2:1s and 30% get 2:2s. Therefore the mean, median, and mode mark is usually (or should be) a 2:1.
    It is a course that has very high standards and really 2.2 should be average as 2.2 means average, okay. I do not know why the average is not a 2.1 but they have increased marking standards again this year so the average will probably still be in the 2,2.
    :beer:
  • DrFluffy
    DrFluffy Posts: 2,549 Forumite
    But when I pass out through pain... stress is not likely the answer... inspite of nothing else seemingly wrong :confused:

    Personal rant really, I just wish more doctors were scientifically inclined instead of heavily relying on a set of known circumstances.

    Stress is more than 'psychological', there are some very definite physical manifestations too - interestingly stress can also exacerbate pain.

    [Not saying any of this is relevant to you or 'offering' medical advice...]
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  • talksalot81
    talksalot81 Posts: 1,227 Forumite
    can we move the thread away from attacking an entire profession?!
    some doctors are great, some aren't so good...... it's not really fair to make judgements about them all.

    How about we agree to this on the acceptance that we stop calling them doctors and correctly term them 'medics'!? Most people seem ignorant to the fact that a medic often is no more than an honourary doctor and a huge number have not earned a phd or MD or the likes.
    2 + 2 = 4
    except for the general public when it can mean whatever they want it to.
  • DrFluffy
    DrFluffy Posts: 2,549 Forumite
    and a huge number have not earned a phd or MD or the likes.
    I have - can I have a prize? ;):D :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

    To be fair, most qualified medics make comments along the lines of 'oh, so you are a proper doctor!' :D At which point I usually go red and try to say something non-arrogant!
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  • studentphil
    studentphil Posts: 37,640 Forumite
    It is true that is no sense of holding a doctorate is a medical doctor a doctor, but it is one of these qurks of history that a Medical doctor has a Dr title.
    :beer:
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