really old style living?

mardatha

Back on the subject of toilets, for Kiwisaver -

http://factoidz.com/make-your-own-composting-toilet/

ceridwen

mardatha wrote: »

"Survivors" got me into this stuff. I never forgot it all the years since it came out. And other sci-fi stuff like the Day of the Triffids and Quatermass. I dont ever see it happening either, but its nice to have a plan just in case it does

Someone I know has been watching stuff like that - and proceeded to thoroughly depress me by commenting how they had noticed that "Survival of the Fittest" quickly becomes the way things are.

If everything really went "right down the swanee" on a longterm basis I do wonder personally whether I'd look round at the attitudes of the "company I had to keep" - ie if people were doing the "Nature red in tooth and claw" scenario and decide my best strategy was just to shut myself in my home and "blow it" to any "struggling to survive".

Presume we are just planning for temporary problems here - and not a "Its a Society - but not as we know it" scenario....?:cool:

Sorress - you kinda caught me on a "downer" - wondering what ways I personally feel Society has changed for the better in the last, say, 25 years and thinking "Well - it must be a snakes and ladder scenario here. For all the snakes - there MUST be an equivalent number of ladders mustnt there.?......" Errr...the only ladder I could think of was my free buspass in retirement (but I'll probably have to wait till 70 for that it seems...:mad:...bar the Government realising JUST how many "senses-impaired" people over 60 are likely to be out in cars on the roads if they don't have the free buspass they expected (hence thinking "Well I might as well get in my car - if I'm going to have to pay to travel anyway") and generally creating havoc for other roadusers.)

Come on now gang - task for the day is find some other "ladders" to point out to ceridwen on a downer. The snakes are so plentiful - more people, more countryside being built on, cuts to various bits of pension income, threats to dole (if required), G.M. food, irradiated food, our ruined Seas... Come on gals...help me out here and think of some "positives" that have happened over the last 25 years...theres gotta be some somewheres....errr...hasnt there?

seasalt_2

carriebradshaw wrote: »

I wish they'd repeat the old series of Survivors it was brilliant, the new one was just rubbish

Didn't know there had been a new one - which just shows how much telly I watch! Have never forgotten the old one either, Mardatha.

ChocClare

Well, I notice you all wimped out totally at the horrifying thought of providing dinner for a vegetarian family with no eggs or milk available: see, that would have been a piece of cake for a Mormon family as they're advised to store rice and beans as staples...

So, with loads of hugs being sent to kiwisaver who is obviously living the challenge :grouphug:

... here is Day Five

Be very aware of carbon monoxide poisoning!

ChocClare

In other news:

Couldn't agree more about having cash in the house: we try to keep £100 on hand at all times in SMALL DENOMINATIONS - pound coins and fivers spread over the place as well as silver and copper. I have never forgotten being on holiday in Greece twenty-odd years ago and going to cash our travellers cheques only to find the back-up card we needed for them had expired. We had the equivalent of about 40p between us and six days left of a self-catering holiday. We managed to get money in the end but it was a costly and nerve-wracking exercise.

On the stove front: at the New Forest Show in the summer, we saw an ozpig stove and have decided We Have To Have One. Pricier than a home-made version, of course!

ceridwen, sorry to hear you've got the blues. 25 years ago we didn't have t'interweb darling - just think how much you've learnt from that/how many friends you've made etc. If it's any consolation, I remember when I was doing Latin at school, that some philosopher chappie (you can see what a FANTASTIC thing it was that my doting parents lavished me with such a wonderful education) writing in the first century AD bemoaned the fact that society was so decadent, the government so !!!!less and young people so lacking in manners and education that the end of the world was doubtless just a short time away...

ETA: I wonder why it wouldn't let me write f e c k l e s s...

anguk

ceridwen wrote: »

Come on gals...help me out here and think of some "positives" that have happened over the last 25 years...theres gotta be some somewheres....errr...hasnt there?

Advances in medicine? Okay so the NHS isn't brilliant, silly amounts of money being wasted in some areas and desperate shortages in others but treatment and survival rates have improved. For example kidney transplant survival rates have more than doubled over the past 20 years.

ceridwen

Thanks ChocClare - okay...thats two positives then in "recent history" - that free buspass (probably not till 70:mad:) and yep...the Internet providing me with all sortsa useful info/virtual friends.

Next.....

seasalt_2

What about things like LETs, freecycle and those kinds of community initiative?

mardatha

Online shopping so you can have sweeties delivered right to your door! :j:j:j

smileyt_2

ChocClare wrote: »

Well, I notice you all wimped out totally at the horrifying thought of providing dinner for a vegetarian family with no eggs or milk available: see, that would have been a piece of cake for a Mormon family as they're advised to store rice and beans as staples...

So, with loads of hugs being sent to kiwisaver who is obviously living the challenge :grouphug:

... here is Day Five

Be very aware of carbon monoxide poisoning!

Wouldn't have been a problem for me, as I'm vegan and my foster son is vegetarian. I could have done the bedding too. And some toothbrushes. But not the $100 cash. Maybe I will have to have an envelope under the mattress in future :rotfl: