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Nursery School Day Trip-Am I being unfair?

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  • claireac
    claireac Posts: 983 Forumite
    I agree with everything JoJo said!

    My dd is 3 (4 on Monday!) and she just had her trip on Friday. She was looked after by a mum we don't know. She had a ball!!! I didn't go, and I didn't want to go tbh. I think it's important that our children have these experiences and learn a bit of independence.

    I did hear that the day after the letter went there was a queue of parents wanting to go too...........
  • thebaileys
    thebaileys Posts: 251 Forumite
    !!!!!! wrote: »
    I'm waiting for 'the nursery is closed because they are all going on a trip. I wouldn't allow my son to go without me. What am I supposed to do about childcare?'

    Childcare is not an issue here!

    I have listened to what everyone has said, and decided that if my son wants to go on the trip, he can, as long as he is happy!

    At the minute he wants to go, as I have explained that there is not enough room for all the Mammys and Daddys but he will have a lovely time, I will pack him a special lunch and collect him afterwards.
  • DON79
    DON79 Posts: 3,842 Forumite
    I hope he has a lovely time thebaileys and I have yet to face this hurdle with my four year old so I will probably be a bag of nerves - I hope you can relax too whilst he is on the trip... I would likely not be able to go if I was in this situation as I have a 2 & 1/2 year old and am pregnant - so in future it is unlikely I will be able to go with him either due to needing childcare for my other children. You can't help worrying which is natural - best wishes for the day & trip. xx
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  • balletshoes
    balletshoes Posts: 16,610 Forumite
    thebaileys wrote: »
    Childcare is not an issue here!

    I have listened to what everyone has said, and decided that if my son wants to go on the trip, he can, as long as he is happy!

    At the minute he wants to go, as I have explained that there is not enough room for all the Mammys and Daddys but he will have a lovely time, I will pack him a special lunch and collect him afterwards.

    i think thats the right way to go about it, hope master thebaileys goes and enjoys his day of adventure :)
  • bylromarha
    bylromarha Posts: 10,085 Forumite
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    thebaileys wrote: »
    Childcare is not an issue here!

    I have listened to what everyone has said, and decided that if my son wants to go on the trip, he can, as long as he is happy!

    At the minute he wants to go, as I have explained that there is not enough room for all the Mammys and Daddys but he will have a lovely time, I will pack him a special lunch and collect him afterwards.

    fab. I think you're doing the best thing.

    and don't forget if he gets teary on the morning of the trip you can always bring him home with you again. I'd imagine though that he'll be running round the house like a loon from 6am yelling I'm going on an adventure today...my 2 normally do on school trip day! Getting them into uniform is even more of a nightmare!
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  • memelalou
    memelalou Posts: 169 Forumite
    Ignore if this has been mentioned or the nursery doesn't work the same, but my mother volenteered at the nursery my younger brother was at and she was not allowed to be in his group when trips happened. I think it was so preference wasn't shown to your own child and that there is no 'parent says this' and 'teacher said that', the child or parent doesn't undermind the teachers authority while the nursery is responsible.
    Any who the point i was trying to get across if your son's nursery was like my brothers then you wouldn't be grouped with your son anyway, another parent would. Even if you do not know this other parent it is still supervised by staff members who you should know and trust to look after your son in their care.
  • msb5262
    msb5262 Posts: 1,619 Forumite
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    memelalou wrote: »
    Ignore if this has been mentioned or the nursery doesn't work the same, but my mother volunteered at the nursery my younger brother was at and she was not allowed to be in his group when trips happened. I think it was so preference wasn't shown to your own child and that there is no 'parent says this' and 'teacher said that', the child or parent doesn't undermind the teachers authority while the nursery is responsible.
    Any who the point i was trying to get across if your son's nursery was like my brothers then you wouldn't be grouped with your son anyway, another parent would. Even if you do not know this other parent it is still supervised by staff members who you should know and trust to look after your son in their care.

    Certainly in my experience as a teacher, parents can't be counted when working out the adult:child ratio. This is because it's thought that in an emergency situation, a parent will automatically leap to help his or her own child. I can't understand how the nursery in the OP can be planning to have only 2 staff members with so many children.
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  • Janepig
    Janepig Posts: 16,780 Forumite
    msb5262 wrote: »
    Certainly in my experience as a teacher, parents can't be counted when working out the adult:child ratio. This is because it's thought that in an emergency situation, a parent will automatically leap to help his or her own child. I can't understand how the nursery in the OP can be planning to have only 2 staff members with so many children.
    MsB

    I can only imagine you must be in a fairly small school. DS has recently had his trip and there are 67 in his year at nursery. We went to the beach and nearly all the parents went, although you didn't have to if you couldn't/didn't want to. Once they get to reception then they don't ask parents to go, other than a small number of parent/grandparent helpers to bump the adult/child ratio up. But with that number of children in the year then by your formula they'd either never go on trips, or have to have a separate bus for the adults!!

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  • msb5262
    msb5262 Posts: 1,619 Forumite
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    Nope - not a small school at all...379 children at the last count!
    The ratios are a part of the risk assessment which should be completed before any out of school activity or trip, a legal requirement for the local education authority.
    MsBx
  • bylromarha
    bylromarha Posts: 10,085 Forumite
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    msb5262 wrote: »
    Certainly in my experience as a teacher, parents can't be counted when working out the adult:child ratio. This is because it's thought that in an emergency situation, a parent will automatically leap to help his or her own child. I can't understand how the nursery in the OP can be planning to have only 2 staff members with so many children.
    MsB

    My experience as a teacher (reception upwards), we do count the parents in the ratios, but for child protection we always paired a parent's group with a staff members group to form a larger group.

    My daughter is in a nursery class which is part of a school - their school trip a few weeks back counted parents in the ratio too. 60 3 and 4 year olds, 6 staff members, rest were parent helpers.

    We always used to put a volunteer parent with their child's group. What's in it for the parent when they give up their time to help out, if they can't even spend the day with their kid?!
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