stopping health in start and sure start maternint grants

Deepmistrust

lauren_1 wrote: »

I'l stick to scrabbling around on ebay thanks.

Good for you on the pram, nice how you slate second hand things though?

Don't slate second hand things at all. There is plenty of quality second hand gear out there, but the bit you don't understand is that it can still cost money, and can still be expensive (especially prams, they seem to keep their value).

Trouble is you are talking about what can only be described as tat. I'm sure if you've been lucky and found a quality second hand nappy, that's great, but do you honestly expect the government to cost up maternity grants on the basis of your standards and jumble habits?

(Except maybe draw the line at second hand nappies), But I'm feeling really sad for your bairn in his scrap of material for a sling and £4.50 cot, and second hand nappies.

GEEGEE8

If more people were like Lauren, this country wouldn't be in the dire state that it is. Good on you Lauren!

I don't think I had Pampers ultra tight, leak free, animated funky nappies when I was a kid, didn't hurt me tho!

Should the government base it on ebay and jumble sales? Maybe somewhere in between yes, just so people actually TRY to find a good deal, rather than wasting it on brand new stuff that may never get used.

lauren_1

No, my point is i dont expect the government to fund ANYTHING towards maternity grants.

My choice to have a baby, if it wasnt around babies would still be born.

I would really be ashamed if i based wether or not to have a child on what i would get from the government.

Deepmistrust

lauren_1 wrote: »

No, my point is i dont expect the government to fund ANYTHING towards maternity grants.


Yet you still don't see the irony of you claiming the grant yourself, and using the vast majority of it on a holiday, less about £4.50 for the poor blighters cot, and the cost of a wrap of jersey for a sling.:rotfl::rotfl:

My choice to have a baby, if it wasnt around babies would still be born.

I would really be ashamed if i based wether or not to have a child on what i would get from the government.

What are you wittering about now? Who are you talking about is basing "whether or not to have a child on what I would get from the government"?

Perhaps we can have a whip round to buy your bairn some unused baby wipes.

lauren_1

Deepmistrust wrote: »

Don't slate second hand things at all. There is plenty of quality second hand gear out there, but the bit you don't understand is that it can still cost money, and can still be expensive (especially prams, they seem to keep their value).

Trouble is you are talking about what can only be described as tat. I'm sure if you've been lucky and found a quality second hand nappy, that's great, but do you honestly expect the government to cost up maternity grants on the basis of your standards and jumble habits?

(Except maybe draw the line at second hand nappies), But I'm feeling really sad for your bairn in his scrap of material for a sling and £4.50 cot, and second hand nappies.

im actually planning to make some of the nappies and wipes (cottontots are extremely easy to copy), please choke quietly

Deepmistrust

GEEGEE8 wrote: »

If more people were like Lauren, this country wouldn't be in the dire state that it is. Good on you Lauren!

I don't think I had Pampers ultra tight, leak free, animated funky nappies when I was a kid, didn't hurt me tho!

Should the government base it on ebay and jumble sales? Maybe somewhere in between yes, just so people actually TRY to find a good deal, rather than wasting it on brand new stuff that may never get used.

So why do you think brand new stuff "wont get used" whilst second hand stuff will? If something is going to be used, it's going to be used. It's not dependant (assuming it to be working and functional) on how many users it had beforehand.

No one is talking about using pampers. Please keep up.

Yeah, I'm sure if more people walked around looking like a mobile jumble sale the country most certainly would be fantastic. I mean, it's people that don't walk around in scraps of material that have destroyed the economy isn't it. Thanks for that enlightening and informative post. There was me thinking the greedy banks, and stupid and corrupt politicians were to blame.

*taxi for GeeGee*

GEEGEE8

lol - the taxi part made me laugh - hehe

Well, you have your opinion and I have mine, I'm not being drawn into an argument with you.

I think more people should be more thrifty when in comes to spending, and they will have to soon, there won't be the grants and help available from the government. I'm sure if you had £200 to spend on baby things then you would be more selective. If you have £500 then you will probably waste a lot of it on unecessary rubbish that the baby with never use or need.

Anyhow, I'm off, the taxi is here.

Deepmistrust

GEEGEE8 wrote: »

lol - the taxi part made me laugh - hehe

Well, you have your opinion and I have mine, I'm not being drawn into an argument with you.

I think more people should be more thrifty when in comes to spending, and they will have to soon, there won't be the grants and help available from the government. I'm sure if you had £200 to spend on baby things then you would be more selective. If you have £500 then you will probably waste a lot of it on unecessary rubbish that the baby with never use or need.

Anyhow, I'm off, the taxi is here.

Sure people should be more thrifty when it comes to pointless spending. We can start with the billions handed over to the banks, or the £20 billion on illegal wars, or perphaps not, far easier to go after low income pregnant women instead.

bestpud

Deepmistrust wrote: »

Not to mention about a £100 for a real nappy system. Who would want second hand there?:rotfl:

It is quite acceptable to buy second hand nappies - there is threads and forums dedicated to doing just that!

Real nappies differ and it is hard to predict what will suit your baby so people who buy expensive nappy systems often end up selling them on.

The best/cheapest way is to buy a few different types second hand and see what works!

It's not yukky as they can be washed at very high temps and liners catch the worst anyway!

I certainly bought and sold real nappies when my youngest was a baby and they were always well looked after and clean!

I think you are allowing your personal prejudices to cloud your judgement on this thread - not everyone has these hang ups and you'd be surprised how many well dressed people buy mainly second hand items - they are often the wealthy ones in fact!!!

daska

Hands up anyone who's failed to sell or freecycle a second hand cot? My kids both had second hand cots. DS2's came through the family and had been used for 6 kids before I got it, I had to get rid of it because the drop side no longer worked and I couldn't lift DS2 over the side but got repaired as a fixed side cot and found a good home.

Yet there's still a thriving market for new baby equipment - because things don't last forever. If everyone was forced to buy second hand, what would happen when all the second hand stuff got past being reusable?

And how long are people supposed to keep equipment? I never expected to have DS2 and there are 10 years between him and DS1. Surprise pregnancies aren't that rare LOL even with contraception and infertility problems. So should we make it compulsory to keep all equipment until we reach the change, just so we can be sure of not finding ourselves surprised and in need.

I'm not arguing that the HIP or SS grants should have been kept but some of the arguments that have been trotted out on this thread are just plain daft.