Red lights and cyclists

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mikey72 wrote: »

Keep looking, you're cyclists, it'll take you longer, the chip on your shoulder usually blocks your vision.
Motorists are used to having to worry about them being where they shouldn't be.

So, are you going to point them out or do they not exist ?

TiTheRev

I am a motorist 1st, but recent convert to the health and eco friendlier form of travel. No chip on my shoulder, but take exception to the mindless drivers who think cyclists dont deserve to be on the road, or tar them all with the same brush as un-road-savvy goons. Get off your soapbox Mikey72!

jimbms

Jojo_the_Tightfisted wrote: »

As long as you don't object if I drive over your spinal column when you appear in front of me without warning, by all means keep ignoring the red lights. I'll try and miss you, but as I am a new driver, I can't guarantee my skills are sufficient to do this every time.

I won't, in my view anyone jumping a red light is fair game and you have a very good excuse and chance of getting away with hitting them.

Strider590

The last impatient car driver who hit me with his wing mirror by overtaking me 50 yrd before a traffic jam.... He lost his wing mirror less than 30 seconds later.

TiTheRev wrote: »

I am a motorist 1st

Me too!

mikey72

TiTheRev wrote: »

I am a motorist 1st, but recent convert to the health and eco friendlier form of travel. No chip on my shoulder, but take exception to the mindless drivers who think cyclists dont deserve to be on the road, or tar them all with the same brush as un-road-savvy goons. Get off your soapbox Mikey72!

No room on the soapbox with you up there already.

TiTheRev wrote: »

...and most actually do via Bike insurance or other policies that cover them for accidental damage...but I can bet that 99.99% of claims with bicycles in the incident report are because cars have ignored them as legal road users, probably being too busy on the phone or drinking a coffee to pay attention

Harry_Flashman

BBB wrote: »

annoys me more when they don't have a crash helmet on too!

What the Hell business is it of yours if they wear a helmet or not?

One of the serious problems with this country (right from top to bottom) is the nannying busybodies who think they have the right to dictate on other's personal lives!

Anyhow, back to the original question. The freeloading parasites known as cyclists ARE subject to road laws just the same as the rest of us and ARE obliged to stop at red lights just the same as the rest of us. There are no grey areas on this one.

tomstickland

All cyclists I know pay road tax for their cars. They are not freeloading; they are saving everyone else money in terms of road wear and congestion.

Strider590

Harry_Flashman wrote: »

The freeloading parasites known as cyclists ARE subject to road laws just the same as the rest of us

Too damn right!! and those bloody small diesel and electric cars that pay no road tax too!! Parasites the lot of em!
:beer:

jimbms

Most cyclists are sensible but you always get idiots, two years ago there was one on holiday here during TT fortnight, when it was pointed out to him he could not go over the mountain road northbound as it was one way for the duration of TT, he told the informant that he could go that way as it was only advisory for cyclists, I often wonder if he still remembers those words two years on after his legs had been removed due to being hit by a Fireblade legally doing 160mph just after Kates Cottage, thankfully the blade rider just had a few bruises.

bosseyed

Harry_Flashman wrote: »

What the Hell business is it of yours if they wear a helmet or not?

One of the serious problems with this country (right from top to bottom) is the nannying busybodies who think they have the right to dictate on other's personal lives!

Its just annoying to see people being utterly dense. It takes no real imagination to picture your unprotected head striking concrete and the consequences of such an interaction.

Any cyclist with even vaguely functioning common sense wears a helmet. Worst one I see on a regular basis is this guy on a bike, no helmet, balanced carefully on the handlebars is his toddler, also no helmet :mad: One bump, they're both off, heads in bits.

Mind you on the flipside of all this - I drive regularly, I cycle regularly - and as a cyclist even I can admit that no matter how well your're riding, no matter how carefully you obey the rules of the road, the fact remains that you're always in the way of car drivers.