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Free bluray player with HD tv at tescos

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  • whatmichaelsays
    whatmichaelsays Posts: 2,927 Forumite
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    Zandoni wrote: »
    That's the grey area, signs in the store mentioned a free bluray player, so that is the terms of the contract.

    No.

    The signs in the store are an "invitation to treat", not an "offer of contract".

    An offer to enter a contract is only made when the customer presents the items that he/she wishes to purchase.
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  • Zandoni
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    No.

    The signs in the store are an "invitation to treat", not an "offer of contract".

    An offer to enter a contract is only made when the customer presents the items that he/she wishes to purchase.

    You will need to proove that or it will be just your opinion.
  • OlliesDad
    OlliesDad Posts: 1,825 Forumite
    Zandoni wrote: »
    You will need to proove that or it will be just your opinion.

    Isn't law based on opinion? Ultimately in court it comes down to somebodies opinion i.e. a Judge
  • Zandoni
    Zandoni Posts: 3,465 Forumite
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    OlliesDad wrote: »
    Isn't law based on opinion? Ultimately in court it comes down to somebodies opinion i.e. a Judge

    Not at all.......
  • Crazy_Jamie
    Crazy_Jamie Posts: 2,246 Forumite
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    Zandoni wrote: »
    You will need to proove that or it will be just your opinion.
    I wasn't going to step back into this thread, but seen as your pedanticism is becoming so prominent in this discussion that it's verging on trolling, I thought I would put an end to it.

    The case that states that shop displays showing items for sale and prices are invitations to treat and not offers as regards a contract is Fisher v Bell [1961] 1 QB 394, a case which I am sure a number of members on here recognise as it is reasonable well known. The case that extends that principle to this scenario, and hence the case that you're looking for, is Partridge v Crittenden [1968] 1 WLR 1204, in which the High Court held that the general rule in Fisher extends to advertisements as well. Therefore, whether or not you class the offer referred to in this thread as an advertisement or a stated price (it could feasibly be either) makes no difference; either way it is an invitation to treat and not an offer. Therefore it does not automatically become incorporated into the terms of the contract for sale of the television.

    Conveniently, this also definitively settles the issue in the thread. Are you happy now?
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  • Zandoni
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    I wasn't going to step back into this thread, but seen as your pedanticism is becoming so prominent in this discussion that it's verging on trolling, I thought I would put an end to it.

    The case that states that shop displays showing items for sale and prices are invitations to treat and not offers as regards a contract is Fisher v Bell [1961] 1 QB 394, a case which I am sure a number of members on here recognise as it is reasonable well known. The case that extends that principle to this scenario, and hence the case that you're looking for, is Partridge v Crittenden [1968] 1 WLR 1204, in which the High Court held that the general rule in Fisher extends to advertisements as well. Therefore, whether or not you class the offer referred to in this thread as an advertisement or a stated price (it could feasibly be either) makes no difference; either way it is an invitation to treat and not an offer. Therefore it does not automatically become incorporated into the terms of the contract for sale of the television.

    Conveniently, this also definitively settles the issue in the thread. Are you happy now?

    No I am not happy at all, how can you accuse someone of trolling just because they have a different opinion to you. I am not here to cause arguements I am simply putting across my opinions.

    That opinion hasn't changed either, although I have stated that as the TV was ex demo it wouldn't of had the offer anyway.
  • Crazy_Jamie
    Crazy_Jamie Posts: 2,246 Forumite
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    Zandoni wrote: »
    No I am not happy at all, how can you accuse someone of trolling just because they have a different opinion to you. I am not here to cause arguements I am simply putting across my opinions.
    I am not accusing you of trolling due to your differing opinion; indeed I hadn't expressed an opinion in this thread at all before my last post. The problem is that your method of discussion involves flippantly dismissing the points of others unless they can provide 'proof', whilst at no time substantiating any of your own points with the 'proof' that you demand of others. It is an inconsistent and overly defensive approach that goads people into reacting whilst serving no constructive purpose.
    Zandoni wrote:
    That opinion hasn't changed either, although I have stated that as the TV was ex demo it wouldn't of had the offer anyway.
    What was it about the fully substantiated case law that doesn't constitute the 'proof' that you seemingly have such a hunger for? We're not in the realm of opinion anymore; we're in the realm of cold, hard common law precedent, which I thought is where you wanted to be.
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  • Zandoni
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    The problem is that your method of discussion involves flippantly dismissing the points of others unless they can provide 'proof', whilst at no time substantiating any of your own points with the 'proof' that you demand of others. QUOTE]

    If you look back over the thread you will see that I didn't start any of the squabbling, I was hitting back at the way people spoke to me.

    I feel that I have had the wrong idea that this forum was here to help people stand up for their rights. It actually appears to be here to mock people when they feel that they have had a bad deal.

    You can spout case law as much as you like, I still feel that if the OP had bought a new TV Tesco's would have honoured their offer.
  • KeithP
    KeithP Posts: 41,296 Forumite
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    Zandoni wrote: »
    ...I still feel that if the OP had bought a new TV Tesco's would have honoured their offer.
    I think this is one of the things that upsets people.

    You have just told us what you feel.

    Earlier you used phrases like "I believe...", and "I would say...".

    When challenged, your response is...
    Zandoni wrote: »
    You will need to proove that or it will be just your opinion.

    Others offer proof, i.e. case law.

    Your response is then...
    Zandoni wrote: »
    You can spout case law as much as you like...
    Why are you not prepared to accept that perhaps, just maybe, you are wrong?

    Not once have you offered any sort of justification for your opinions.
    Even when directly asked for it, you totally ignored the request...
    wealdroam wrote: »
    It might be useful though if you could tell us about the right that does exist in this case.

    Oh, with a citation, of course.
  • kutsu119
    kutsu119 Posts: 163 Forumite
    If you take advice from Zandoni, you are asking for trouble. He hasn't a clue what day of the week it is, let alone consumer law.

    "Prove it" - indeed
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