So which tv out of these 3?

aliEnRIK

Example of power usage of a 42" pan' plasma against a 40" samsung LCD

plasma ~ calibrated 172 watts
LCD ~ calibrated 79 watts

Clearly more than double for the plasma

Snooze

deano23285 wrote: »

hows this for a deal??

http://www.sainsburys.co.uk/sol/shop/technology/televisions/119634764_toshiba_40_full_hd_1080p_lcd_tv.html?SRC=LPTV&POD=TVTOP1

Bag of bollox if you want some sound with your piccy. See reviews.

i8change

Example of power usage of a 42" pan' plasma against a 40" samsung LCD

plasma ~ calibrated 172 watts
LCD ~ calibrated 79 watts

This is out of date now:-

http://www.flatpanelshd.com/review.php?subaction=showfull&id=1269850266

After calibration I measured energy consumption of 118 W which is fair for a 42-inch plasma Tv but pretty much similar to the 42-inch X10 that it replaces.

Plasmas are worth looking at if you don't have a bright room, need wide viewing angles, don't like motion blur/like sport.

The actual end users tend to rate them higher than official reviews would suggest:-

http://www.amazon.co.uk/product-reviews/B001TUYUT2

You find the same with the Which? mag review, the user comments are mainly glowing and cannot see why it was not marked higher (members only for Which? so link may not work.)

http://www.which.co.uk/reviews/lcd-and-plasma-tv/panasonic-viera-tx-p37x10/customer-views

I had ordered a bargain 40" Sony LCD with free Sony Bluray player, from M&S (for the same £599 I paid for my Panasonic TX-P37X20B Plasma) but I cancelled. A local Panasonic dealer had just got the 42" in on display and whilst I was waiting for my Sony I went to look at it.

I watch a lot of SD (Freeview and DVD) and to me the Plasma in the shop, even at 42", was near to my 28" CRT quality wise wereas the LCD's looked vivid and impressive but in an unreal sort of way, not like the CRT I was used to. I also don't like the smearing you get with LCD. I went for another look at the Sony (KDL-40V5810) then took my free Bluray back to M&S and ordered the TX-P37X20B Plasma instead!

You will still get pixellation with the Plasma on low bitrate channels (ITV etc.) it cannot be avoided. As the TV is larger so is the pixellation, compared to a smaller 28" CRT. BBC etc look great and upscale well.

I never thought I would say it, but in our north facing room and on Cinema and Warm, I prefer the Plasma picture to the CRT now! Not sure how it would compare in a bright room.

I am very happy with the 37" Plasma and glad I cancelled the Sony, the SD picture on that would not have been quite good enough after seeing the Plasma and would have niggled me.

Some like the look of LCD and some like Plasma you need to view both.

Unfortunately Plasma TV's don't suit bright shop lighting as much as LCD.

Good luck with your hunt for a TV.

Amazon is cheaper than Currys for the latest 37" Plasma:-

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Panasonic-TX-P37X20B-37-inch-Widescreen-Freeview/dp/B00378KHP0

just in case you go the Plasma route.

aliEnRIK

i8change wrote: »

This is out of date now:-

http://www.flatpanelshd.com/review.php?subaction=showfull&id=1269850266

Mines from here (March this year) ~
http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/panasonic-txp42g20-txp42g20b-20100308169.htm

133 watts out of the box and 172 watts calibrated

I know which site im going to trust

atrixblue.-MFR-.

i would go for the most modern spec full hd with lcd screen, shop other sites other than curry's or comet, or go instore sometime people return a perfectly working tv that has superficial damage at the rear that poses no affect on the operation of all functions in and on them at lower prices. plus if anything did go wrong youd still have some warrenty on it! overclockersuk. are cheap for tv's as well as novatech, ccl online etc. i have a full hd 32" tv as my pc screen if i was to upgrade i would go for LCD as it is a sharper clearer hd picture!

gabyjane

Thanks for the replys.

Hmm going round in circles really all we want is a good picture and good sound as dont want a surround sound fixed with it.

It is against the corner of the wall (diagonal?) so HAS to be a 37" max, it is on a bracket not a stand and the room is generally darker than a bright room but not dull! We also sit closeish to it so dont want anything bigger for that reason..for that ill go to the cinema!! Our top up box is wired in so no, no card with it but not a prob as not huge and we have a floating shelf under it with all the wires hidden so again not fussed about boxes.

Love the Panasonic but plasma so now relooking into that due to the debates above!, dont like Sonys..the one on the sainsburys link is too big, the Samsung is still lovely but together i prefer the Panasonic!! Maybe ill just stick with the one we have..much easier!

i8change

Mines from here (March this year) ~
http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/panas...0100308169.htm

133 watts out of the box and 172 watts calibrated

I know which site im going to trust

That is the expensive G model (full HD), which is out of the OP's price range.

The latest X20's (HD ready) use a bit less I think.

The OP would have to do some research if Power economy is important, but the consumption varies greatly with source unlike LCD so it is not easy.

The 37" is obviously more economical though, so not too bad.

i8change

Maybe ill just stick with the one we have..much easier!

All the latest models will be cheaper in the Autumn/Winter. Time is on your side.

BoGoF

Hate to sound dumb (I like to think of myself as better than some at understanding tech speak) but what is this calibration you speak of.

I have a Samsung LE32B450 HD ready TV and I have to confess I only see a slight improvement since getting an HD box and channels and maybe I am kidding myself !

Now I'm wondering if it's set up properly. I've has a look at the HDTV site and it seems a reasonable tv.

Any help appreciated.

aliEnRIK

BoGoF wrote: »

Hate to sound dumb (I like to think of myself as better than some at understanding tech speak) but what is this calibration you speak of.

I have a Samsung LE32B450 HD ready TV and I have to confess I only see a slight improvement since getting an HD box and channels and maybe I am kidding myself !

Now I'm wondering if it's set up properly. I've has a look at the HDTV site and it seems a reasonable tv.

Any help appreciated.

Calibration ~ to set the tv up looking its best and as close to 65k standards as possible (65k is a measured exact setup that ALL cinemas etc follow)
Ill give an example of a Pioneer 50", considered still to be the best tvs in existence today. However, default (None calibrated) settings make it look mediocre at best

Basics are ~ switch off all extra processing cr*p (DNR, live colour, contrast enhance etc etc etc ~ all the silly names they make up)
Set black levels using BRIGHTNESS and BACKLIGHT settings
I use this to set to ~
http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/black.php
CONTRAST for white levels ~
http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/white.php

Dont set SHARPNESS or COLOUR too high

Proper calibrations are done by ISF engineers (Specific to calibrate tvs), but these costs hundreds. I use my own calibration sensor.