Cost v's number of children

viktory

My parents both used to work - and we were never in childcare. I don't think it existed! We were latchkey kids:D :rotfl: . No seriously, Dad worked during the day and Mum would go out to work when he got home. In fact, my Mum said that she used to breastfeed me before Dad got home, practically throw me at him when he got home and then leg it out of the door. When she got home, she would feed me again. It would have been easier for them if I had taken to a bottle but I refused I was six weeks old. No lasting damage done to me.

They shared the chores with us children and each other (I didn't have to do chores at six weeks old, I hasten to add! :eek: ). That was later.

But then again, the Government wasn't quite as generous as it is now (see previous thread ). It also never did their relationship any harm, they are still married god knows how many years later. DH parents were the same.

I often wonder if there is a link between the benefits system now and the fact that the country is going to !!!!. Families pulled together in the old days and worked damn hard, but they were happy. Kids were well brought up and respectful, the streets were cleaner.........Not that I am saying that people on benefits are responsible for the horrible, feral children on our streets, I hasten to add. Simply that we have gone wrong somewhere in the last 40 odd years...

Lotta_Littlies

Then make a conscious decision not to have any more children until your circumstances allow you to support your family without reasoning that you don’t worry too much about how you are going to feed and clothe them as your tax credits go up every time you have a baby.


Lotta

pandas66

viktory wrote:

Hello! viktory here

Righto, lets clear something up. I was on benefits, I have never hidden that fact. I, however, got off my !!!!!!, got some qualifications and got a (well actually several) jobs to support myself and my family, along with DH.

The timeline in my post is not exact. As I said on the other thread it could so easily have been written the other way round. I could have said "I went to college, met my DH etc, etc" The exact timeline is irrelevant. But this is boring and I am not sure why BS brought it up again (like regurgitated
curry). The points I have made on this thread stand.

I had two children and stopped after two because to have any more would have caused financial hardship to the ones I already had. That and the fact that that I am not naturally maternal and wanted some time and money to myself (much like the OP's sister!).

I am annoyed with the OP is because she is relying on tax credits to support her ever growing family when they clearly do not have enough money to support them. The OP herself has no concern over how she will clothe and feed the children. That is irresponsible.

The question at the start was simply, should the cost of children affect the number of children a person has? The answer, to a normal person, would be yes.

NB Thanks to those that have understood my comments

Just once more for us at the back......:D , you claimed when necessary you then enabled YOURSELF and empowered yourself (and possibly the rest of your family):D and got on with the rest of your life :T

Edinburghlass_2

Not that I am saying that people on benefits are responsible for the horrible, feral children on our streets, I hasten to add. Simply that we have gone wrong somewhere in the last 40 odd years...


You obviously missed the thread where the honour of having feral kids belongs to working single mothers :rotfl::rotfl:

helpafriend

Lotta_Littlies wrote:

Then make a conscious decision not to have any more children until your circumstances allow you to support your family without reasoning that you don’t worry too much about how you are going to feed and clothe them as your tax credits go up every time you have a baby.


Lotta

Women are only fertile for a short time. I am 28 now, do you suggest I wait until my husband has a better job? That could be 10, 15 years away, by then I will probably have trouble conceiving. Why I should miss out on a family because my husband is not a high flyer?

The reason why so many women are having IVF these days is because they wait until the right time. Nature decides the right time, not us.

pandas66

Edinburghlass wrote:

Not that I am saying that people on benefits are responsible for the horrible, feral children on our streets, I hasten to add. Simply that we have gone wrong somewhere in the last 40 odd years...


You obviously missed the thread where the honour of having feral kids belongs to working single mothers :rotfl::rotfl:

and with that in mind, sons GCSE resilts are on Thursday!

me...........:eek:
son..........
later that day...............:beer:

viktory

Edinburghlass wrote:

Not that I am saying that people on benefits are responsible for the horrible, feral children on our streets, I hasten to add. Simply that we have gone wrong somewhere in the last 40 odd years...


You obviously missed the thread where the honour of having feral kids belongs to working single mothers :rotfl::rotfl:

Damn, I missed that one. :rotfl:

liney

I thought it was just the evil breed of 'working mothers' I mean, What kind of woman goes to work to feed her children eh? How dare we use registered childcare facilities when the the tax payer will pay us to sit at home and reproduce.

Katinkka

Women are only fertile for a short time. I am 28 now, do you suggest I wait until my husband has a better job? That could be 10, 15 years away, by then I will probably have trouble conceiving. Why I should miss out on a family because my husband is not a high flyer?

I think you need to stop feeling entitled to do what you like and let others pay for it. It sucks that your bloke has a crap job but thats how it is. You need to accept that you just can't afford it.

My bloke earns about 45k a year as well as benifits such as health insurance etc but WE can't afford anymore children either. There just isn't the money to give another child a decent lifestyle. You cannot live on love. I want my kids to have decent food, decent clothes and to afford to be able to help them follow their interests when theyre older.

wigginsmum

helpafriend wrote:

Women are only fertile for a short time. I am 28 now, do you suggest I wait until my husband has a better job? That could be 10, 15 years away, by then I will probably have trouble conceiving. Why I should miss out on a family because my husband is not a high flyer?

You daft bint - you have a family already!!

For goodness sake ...