Tories slash 10,000 jobs

dealsearcher

Doctor_Gloom wrote: »

There can be little doubt left now that Thatcher's hatchet has been reprised to wreck terrible havoc on the already fragile UK jobs market. The future certainly looks grim.

The future looks grim because we have no money. That will lead to job losses. It's nothing to do with what happened 25 years ago.

StevieJ

ManAtHome wrote: »

Don't think Mad Maggie managed to borrow enough to employ around 12 million people either (hang on, the apologista's were claiming an extra million out of work - where's the other £130,000,000,000 gone?).

She didn't have to she had the full flush of North Sea Oil and all those privatization receipts, what did she do with all that cash?

marklv

Doctor_Gloom wrote: »

Some things never change, it's just like the last time we had a Tory government..

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/10130254.stm

HIPS scrapped

The Association of Home Information Pack Providers (AHIPP) estimates that there are between 3,000 and 10,000 people whose livelihoods are either directly or indirectly dependent on Hips.

I'm delighted that these stupid HIPS are going. As for the lost jobs, well they were never genuine jobs in the first place, were they?

iolanthe07

Amazing how some people are still blaming Thatcher after all these years. New Labour have landed us in the mess we are in. When they took office in 1997 the country was in an excellent financial state, infinitely better than now.

JayScottGreenspan

Hopefully these people will eventually find jobs that create wealth.

ManAtHome

StevieJ wrote: »

She didn't have to she had the full flush of North Sea Oil and all those privatization receipts, what did she do with all that cash?

All what cash - not a massive difference in receipts (and actually higher over the last 10 years than MMs first 10)
http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&ct=res&cd=1&ved=0CBcQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.hmrc.gov.uk%2Fstats%2Fcorporate_tax%2Ftable11_11.pdf&rct=j&q=uk+north+sea+oil+receipts&ei=7F_2S_KVFIemsQaX6K2SBg&usg=AFQjCNHmQQfauZv3hinp0FtoPvLvJ75GIA

Optimist

ManAtHome wrote: »

All what cash - not a massive difference in receipts (and actually higher over the last 10 years than MMs first 10)
http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&ct=res&cd=1&ved=0CBcQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.hmrc.gov.uk%2Fstats%2Fcorporate_tax%2Ftable11_11.pdf&rct=j&q=uk+north+sea+oil+receipts&ei=7F_2S_KVFIemsQaX6K2SBg&usg=AFQjCNHmQQfauZv3hinp0FtoPvLvJ75GIA

Oh come on, don't let facts get in the way of a rant at the Thatcher era :rotfl:

Person_one

marklv wrote: »

I'm delighted that these stupid HIPS are going. As for the lost jobs, well they were never genuine jobs in the first place, were they?

I'm sure the people who were getting up every morning to go and do them and paying their bills uses the wages they earned doing them would disagree with you!

Who decides what a 'useful' or a 'real' job is anyway? Every values things differently.

Pennywise

Person_one wrote: »

Who decides what a 'useful' or a 'real' job is anyway? Every values things differently.

A good starting point would be whether the "customer" actually wants the goods/services or whether they're forced to buy them.

Also, a point not mentioned in this thread is that the Govt is merely scrapping the legal requirement to have a HIP done. If someone wants to have one done, they are presumably free to do so. If HIPS are so good and useful, surely buyers would be putting pressure on sellers to have them done and sellers would want to do it to please and encourage their buyers.

That's what's called the free market and has been almost lost after 13 years of dictatorship.

HIPs were a good idea. The politicians messed around with them and made them a worthless piece of loo-paper.

moggylover

JayScottGreenspan wrote: »

Hopefully these people will eventually find jobs that create wealth.

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

And, of course, there are just MILLIONS of those sort of jobs out there aren't there?

There are only so many crappy products you can persuade the public they need, only so much rubbish that can be sold and our wonderful "wealth creators" would predominantly prefer to exploit third World labour abroad than pay a living wage in the UK. What are all the other people supposed to do for a living?

Yeah, they were totally non-jobs. Perhaps we should just look at putting an extra 3 or 4 million on the dole and see how that helps an economy;)
Not sure that these will truly mean a loss of "jobs" though, most of the people I know that did them did them as lucrative sidelines to running estate agencies, solicitor, conveyancers, etc.: so probably only a reduction in income/profit in the main, although I can see admin staff within those companies now getting cut, sadly.