Tories slash 10,000 jobs

Person_one

Pennywise wrote: »

A good starting point would be whether the "customer" actually wants the goods/services or whether they're forced to buy them.

Also, a point not mentioned in this thread is that the Govt is merely scrapping the legal requirement to have a HIP done. If someone wants to have one done, they are presumably free to do so. If HIPS are so good and useful, surely buyers would be putting pressure on sellers to have them done and sellers would want to do it to please and encourage their buyers.

That's what's called the free market and has been almost lost after 13 years of dictatorship.

HIPs were a good idea. The politicians messed around with them and made them a worthless piece of loo-paper.

So anyone working in car insurance doesn't have a real job? People who make industrial safety equipment? HMRC employees?

Doctor_Gloom

With the Tories slashing jobs at this rate there's only one way for house prices to go now - Down, way Down.

Freddie_Snowbits

Great News, we have had a HIP Replacement Therapy

StevieJ

Optimist wrote: »

Oh come on, don't let facts get in the way of a rant at the Thatcher era :rotfl:

Yes facts - oil receipts didn't rocket in 1979 and onwards when Thatcher came to power, mucho cash that the previous govt didn't have access to.
There you have me sounding like the fat Spanish waiter at Anfailed :eek:


And what about these beauties no wonder she didn't have to borrow much money

Privatisations by share offer, 1981-91 From Nigel Lawson,

British Aerospace, Cable & Wireless,Amersham International, Britoil, Associated British Ports, Enterprise Oil, Jaguar, British Telecom, British Gas, British Airways, Rolls-Royce, British Airports Authority, British Steel Regional, Water Companies, Electricity Distribution Companies, National Power and PowerGen, Scottish Power and Scottish Hydro Electric.

marklv

Doctor_Gloom wrote: »

There can be little doubt left now that Thatcher's hatchet has been reprised to wreck terrible havoc on the already fragile UK jobs market. The future certainly looks grim.

The future has been looking grim for two years now - what's new?

But every cloud has a silver lining.

wolvoman

Person_one wrote: »

So anyone working in car insurance doesn't have a real job? People who make industrial safety equipment? HMRC employees?

Car insurance may be a legal requirement but it is an in-demand product too. (otherwise why would so many people purchase comprehensive insurance?)

Industrial safety equipment reduces accidents and thereby reducing man-day losses, equipment losses and lawsuit costs (and insurance ones too). It is of financial value to companies. Oh and it attracts better workers.

HMRC provides a valuable service in collecting tax revenues which then get spent on behalf of all taxpayers. (though there are probably thousands of useless jobs in HMRC itself). And don't forget the customs element of HMRC - a vital public service.

HIPS are not only unwanted, they add NO value.

JayScottGreenspan

moggylover wrote: »

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

And, of course, there are just MILLIONS of those sort of jobs out there aren't there?

There are only so many crappy products you can persuade the public they need, only so much rubbish that can be sold and our wonderful "wealth creators" would predominantly prefer to exploit third World labour abroad than pay a living wage in the UK. What are all the other people supposed to do for a living?

Yeah, they were totally non-jobs. Perhaps we should just look at putting an extra 3 or 4 million on the dole and see how that helps an economy;)
Not sure that these will truly mean a loss of "jobs" though, most of the people I know that did them did them as lucrative sidelines to running estate agencies, solicitor, conveyancers, etc.: so probably only a reduction in income/profit in the main, although I can see admin staff within those companies now getting cut, sadly.

Either you create wealth or you help dilute the wealth created by others.

Plenty of jobs in the UK create wealth. For example, you may not think a shelf-stacker creates wealth, but try doing your shopping without them. Traipsing round a warehouse, rustling through pallets... time is money, you know.

You're right about HIPs being a non-job, though.

Going out on a limb, but I reckon estate agents are more and more in the non-job bucket themselves. Honestly, now we've got the land reg data on the internet, now we've got google maps and street view, who needs 'em? Give it twenty years and hopefully the overwhelming majority of house sales will go through without the inefficiency in the process that comes along with their cheap suit, BMW X5, and stream of lies.
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bo_drinker

HIP'S were an easy target waiting for the axe, a waste of time and money. When is Dave and his sidekick going to swing the axe towards all the fkn 3rd generation wasters pi55ing our money up the wall and afraid of work. I am not a fan of Dave but all that will change if he gets those wasters sorted asap.

de1amo

maybe the property market will gain its equilibrium and stimulte growth as people mobilise--i was put off selling my home by hips because i saw it as a total rip off -i feel its a very positive change!

bo_drinker

All those who like to "test the water" will come out of the woodwork again.