Tories slash 10,000 jobs

Spartacus_Mills

Person_one wrote: »

I'm sure the people who were getting up every morning to go and do them and paying their bills uses the wages they earned doing them would disagree with you!

Who decides what a 'useful' or a 'real' job is anyway? Every values things differently.

Well if people value them there is nothing to stop them buying them in future.

Of course if they are a total waste of time then no-one will bother.

catmiaow

Feel sorry for people who have lost their jobs, but I got annoyed having to pay so much for a HIP, which none of my viewers asked to see. They put more even pressure on sellers who had to pay for one.

I now have a HIP in the drawer, which no one has seen other than the estate agent and was a complete waste of cash!

I wish they had never been brought in!

Running_Horse

Soubrette wrote: »

Just a tip for the future but if the current Govt slim down benefits and taxes then a whole raft of civil servants will also get the can.

Damn the Govt

Sou

Why do we need one layer of bureaucrats to take my money, and another to give it back? As a couple on about average wage, we really resent having to apply for tax credits; it makes hard working families feel like benefit claimants. But then that was the whole point, Brown trying to create a whole society grateful for what the generous government hands out.

If Gordon had read any history, he would have known it had been tried and failed before:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speenhamland_system

As for HIPS, they became just another way for estate agents to fleece the public.

Cat695

Lost2 wrote: »

the Labour government have left the Country in millions of pounds of debt

Just to correct you its BILLIONS and not millions;) theres a very big difference

[Deleted User]

nickj wrote: »

you'd better get used to it - there will be more jobs to go in the public sector , gordon commited the country to pay for things that we don't need and can't afford ,

you are right on one thing - it is just like the last time we had a tory govt - they again have to sort out the mess that "prudent" gordon brown has left

so you make some low paid civil servant who earns £15k(plenty of them)redundant,pay them redundancy then pay them possibly £12k in benefits(couple 2 kids rent etc a figure easily reached)
How on earth is that saving the country money?
Its just f!!king with peoples lives and cutting back services.
And dont forget these 10`s of 000`s of ex civil servants will have brought coffee at starbucks pasties at greggs everyday,that`ll be another few 000 on the dole.

A._Badger

woodbine wrote: »

so you make some low paid civil servant who earns £15k(plenty of them)redundant,pay them redundancy then pay them possibly £12k in benefits(couple 2 kids rent etc a figure easily reached)
How on earth is that saving the country money?
Its just f!!king with peoples lives and cutting back services.
And dont forget these 10`s of 000`s of ex civil servants will have brought coffee at starbucks pasties at greggs everyday,that`ll be another few 000 on the dole.

There are still plenty of real jobs where the customers have the choice of buying the service or product offered, or not. The country has been bankrupted, not least on account of creating and supporting these non-jobs.

headcone

Spartacus_Mills wrote: »

I am sure the irony of you calling someone a halfwit is not lost on people.

What`s your excuse?

What part of the sheer rip off policy of privitisation do you not understand?

Thatcher was intellectually incapable of building a system where rewards were for achievment,she had no idea of how to make Britain more prosperous apart from from selling off Billions of pounds worth of public property to bribe halwits like you with tax cuts soley to keep her in power.

That`s the perrenial Tory problem,the Bullingdon boys have an absolute belief that they were born to rule and in my lifetime they have [EMAIL="b@llsed"]b@llsed[/EMAIL] it up every time.

lynzpower

What you are all failing to recognise is that these searches and pretty much the rest of the contents of the "HIP" still need to be provided!

People will still need to get hold of Deeds/ LA searches/ mining surveys and all the gumph that goes in these, IF thier house attracts interest- Maybe conveyancing will take back on more assistants that were laid off, as obvioulsy, these searches will still need to be done during the conveyance??

BUYERS will have to pay for these rather than sellers.

Thats the only difference, as we revert back.

Yes a wrapper industry will go, but the task wont- will it?

A._Badger

lynzpower wrote: »

What you are all failing to recognise is that these searches and pretty much the rest of the contents of the "HIP" still need to be provided!

People will still need to get hold of Deeds/ LA searches/ mining surveys and all the gumph that goes in these, IF thier house attracts interest- Maybe conveyancing will take back on more assistants that were laid off, as obvioulsy, these searches will still need to be done during the conveyance??

BUYERS will have to pay for these rather than sellers.

Thats the only difference, as we revert back.

Yes a wrapper industry will go, but the task wont- will it?

Nope. it will simply go back to being done the way it was before. Minus a completely unnecessary layer of box-ticking non-jobbers in the middle.

treliac

woodbine wrote: »

so you make some low paid civil servant who earns £15k(plenty of them)redundant,pay them redundancy then pay them possibly £12k in benefits(couple 2 kids rent etc a figure easily reached)
How on earth is that saving the country money?
Its just f!!king with peoples lives and cutting back services.
And dont forget these 10`s of 000`s of ex civil servants will have brought coffee at starbucks pasties at greggs everyday,that`ll be another few 000 on the dole.

If the job isn't really necessary then it isn't needed and is a drain on the country's resources. Sorry if that sounds harsh but we can't afford to pay people unless their talent and contribution is of real value.

What we do need to be doing is to be putting growth back into manufacturing and production so that we reinvest in producing goods that are valued and make profits. This is the only way we can move our economy forward.

The public sector is essential in so many ways but should be kept as lean and minimal as possible.