Guess who is not voting Lib Dem next election

Really2

tomterm8 wrote: »

I voted for the Lib Dems ever since I was 18. The policies I voted for clearly aren't the ones the Lib Dems are going to implement. It's as simple as that.

By the way, like 95% of the electorate, I don't vote for a party because of the policies where we agree with another party, I vote on the issues where we disagree.

I think there are ate least 3 Lib Dem policies being implemented and they have had some Tory ones removed.

The Lib Dems would never get in to office without showing they can "run with the big boys"
If they did not join power now they would never get in power.
As much as you are angry would you not prefer in the future the real chance of a Lib government instead of perpetual wasted vote?

I voted Con and some of our policies have been dropped and some Lib ones implemented yet I have no problem with this?
I see it what is more right for the country than being stead fast in support of only one party.

ninky_2

Wheezy wrote: »

Somehow I think it won't be that long

it will if they bring in this fixed term parliament thing. could be interesting if they can't maintain the whip.

tomterm8

Spartacus_Mills wrote: »

A true Party supporter would be ECSTATIC we are now in government with cabinet positions and a clear opportunity to influence the future direction of this country as well as restrain the rabid excesses of the Tory right.
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Well, that's where we disagree. I don't think any of the things you are saying there are true. I don't think we are going to have very much influence at all in the running of the country. I don't think we will be able to restrain the Tory right in the long term. I think the inevitable result of all this is likely to be a Tory majority in 4 years time which will undo all the policies we've 'agreed'. And I do think you are going to be very disappointed, because the reality is the Lib Dems have sold out their policies for very little.

Spartacus_Mills

tomterm8 wrote: »

Well, that's where we disagree. I don't think any of the things you are saying there are true. I don't think we are going to have very much influence at all in the running of the country. I don't think we will be able to restrain the Tory right in the long term. I think the inevitable result of all this is likely to be a Tory majority in 4 years time which will undo all the policies we've 'agreed'. And I do think you are going to be very disappointed, because the reality is the Lib Dems have sold out their policies for very little.

The reality is all we know at the moment are snippets and we have not seen the full detail. From the snippets we have heard I am delighted. So the reality is that we need to wait to find out the full details however I have alot of confidence in our negotiating team. David Laws is a very able man and has a forensic grasp of detail.

Of course we will have influence. We have 5 cabinet positions and 20 Ministerial appointments. We are not going to be rubber stamping Tory policies.

I think you simply wanted a Labour/Lib Dem alliance and are a bit sore about it.

StevieJ

Spartacus_Mills wrote: »

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The Labour/Lib Dem alliance was nothing more than a Guardian leader writers wet dream. Believe me in parts of the country the two parties detest each other. If we had aligned with Labour I would still support the Lib Dems but I would have not been very happy about it.

I knew it, closet Tory :eek:

chucky

tomterm8 wrote: »

Guess who is not voting Lib Dem next election

more fool you for putting your trust in a politician (from any party btw).

Nick Clegg has not only looked after himself but increased the profile of the Lib Dems and forgetten the people that supported him in the place.

despite that i think he seems the more trustworthy of all 3 of the party leaders.

nitr02007

tomterm8 wrote: »

My point is that I doubt many Lib dem supporters voted yellow to get blue. I think the Lib Dems are finished in British politics.

So your ridiculous reasoning comes down to this does it?:

The minority party that I voted for has, against all odds, actually got into some cabinet positions. They are now in a position to moderate the policies of the conservatives and to even push some of their own policies through. So I'll never vote for them again.

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:


I'm quite excited by the prospects of the coalition, with parties working together rather than pulling the country in opposite directions.

chucky

Jonbvn wrote: »

I'm sorry but it is a typical socialist stance to state that most people don't understand and you will tell them what to think.

more tory spin - Cameraman and his private club buddies are in power now you've done your job. :T

you can relax now.

tomterm8

Spartacus_Mills wrote: »

I think you simply wanted a Labour/Lib Dem alliance and are a bit sore about it.

I said what I wanted right at the start. I wanted a supply and confidence agreement.

nitr02007 wrote: »

So your ridiculous reasoning comes down to this does it?:
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It's funny that every time anyone disagrees with a conservative, all they can do is insult and ridicule.

chucky

tomterm8 wrote: »

It's funny that every time anyone disagrees with a conservative, all they can do is insult and ridicule.

or accuse you of being a Labour voter...

i wouldn't worry, it was squeeky bum time for them for a while thinking that Cameron wasn't going to be PM.