Guess who is not voting Lib Dem next election

ninky_2

double dip here we come. cutting public spending now makes that inevitable. there just isn't the strength in the economy to take up the job loss that will entail.

jobs and business created by public service will disappear along with the income that services the mortgages of public service workers and their spending power.

lostinrates

ninky wrote: »

double dip here we come. cutting public spending now makes that inevitable. there just isn't the strength in the economy to take up the job loss that will entail.

Surely it ll originates in private sector and private spend anyway, the stuff thats not borrowed? If its not ther its not there. My guess is, in the shorter term at least, the private sector will have to pay more into the system too.

I think you are right, its going to be horrid, and I hope that the charitable sector is making preprations for increased need.

ninky_2

lostinrates wrote: »

I think you are right, its going to be horrid, and I hope that the charitable sector is making preprations for increased need.

oh yeah that 'big society' stuff. don't think the sally army soup kitchens are going to cut it really. and charities have been the first to suffer in the recession. they'll be losing jobs too.

POPPYOSCAR

There can't be many of us that vote for a party agreeing with all their policies.It is usually a compromise.I personally vote for the lesser of the evils.

I have watched all the goings on with great interest.Some of the politicians have been elevated in my esteem by the willingness to compromise.Also with some of them (particularly some Labour) with their honesty saying that they had lost the election, they should form the opposition and that they would never agree to changing the voting system anyway and admiting that a rainbow coalition would never work.

I don't want the government we now have to fail, because of any idealogy.It is more important to me that the horrendous amount of borrowing stops and that real jobs are created and our country gets back on its feet.You may think this will never work, we will have to wait and see.Lets just hope 'Rent a mob' are kept to a minimum and that this government are given a chance.

Jonbvn

ninky wrote: »

double dip here we come. cutting public spending now makes that inevitable. there just isn't the strength in the economy to take up the job loss that will entail.

jobs and business created by public service will disappear along with the income that services the mortgages of public service workers and their spending power.

GB resigned last night because very few people are in agreement with what you have stated. As any bear on here or HPC will tell you, more debt does not equate to more wealth.

This is just your sole opinion and has no basis in fact, and is in no way inevitable.

Put simply you lost. See you in 4 years.;)

lostinrates

ninky wrote: »

oh yeah that 'big society' stuff. don't think the sally army soup kitchens are going to cut it really. and charities have been the first to suffer in the recession. they'll be losing jobs too.

I know that some private sector employers kept staff they were trying to retain busy by increasing pro bono work during the terrible lull. The extremely good allowance for Pro Bono work is one of the reasons DH likes his firm, and as well as the firm stuff he has been allowed to incorporate work for a charity dealing with the issues of unemployment and costs of living and homelessness that he has a long relationship with into the work scheme to help it more.

I don't think the charitable sector will provide the same as now, and not in the same way but better to provide ''sally army soup'' than nothing...I have no connection with Salvation Army. I've never helped with a soup kitchen, but I have been involved with some of the big Christmas efforts, which was certainly appreciated by everyone I met who used the service.

POPPYOSCAR

Rochdale_Pioneers wrote: »

A lot of LibDem voters will flee - they voted yellow to block the Tories, not to prop them up in government.

Where to? Labour are against PR as much as the Tories.

ninky_2

Jonbvn wrote: »

GB resigned last night because very few people are in agreement with what you have stated. As any bear on here or HPC will tell you, more debt does not equate to more wealth.

This is just your sole opinion and has no basis in fact, and is in no way inevitable.

Put simply you lost. See you in 4 years.;)

not being arrogant but i don't think the majority of the electorate get the basics of keynsians economics. not saying i'm an economic mastermind but history shows that you need public spending through tough times.

i'd hardly say it was my 'sole' opinion.

yes i have lost. and many others have lost. and we'll be feeling even more like losers a year from now.

Wookster

Hi Rochdale :beer:

I thought you might pop on here to say how Labour would have been the better option... despite them having lost the election. Its odd how the tone of your posts have changed from positive to negative following Labour's drubbing.

I actually feel very positive about this agreement and what is really heartening is seeing that Cameron & Clegg seem to have both compromised, and done so in an atmosphere of goodwill. Furthermore it does seem that the agreement reflects the best of both parties manifesto and has ditched the worst (such as opposition to nuclear power, raising the inheritance tax threshold).

As someone who is normally bearish and negative this should go down on MSE as my first really positive, feeling hopeful of the future post.

StevieJ

ninky wrote: »

anyone seen this? a shot of the negotiating list clegg was working to. no mention of tax reforms or protecting public services. plenty of mention of jobs for the boys. topping the list the words "role" and "me". deputy prime minister for only 22 percent of the vote. think we can see where the priorities lie. and electoral reform. well there are plenty of better choices other than av. let's see if we get to choose them.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/may/11/nick-clegg-note-conservative-deal

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