Guess who is not voting Lib Dem next election

lostinrates

tomterm8 wrote: »

Er, I think if powdered glass was in a child of mines eye, it would be right off to A&E. Same with weld.
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For me too.

FWIW I didn't go to a & e last year with an eye problem (some how I'd got a splinter in the underside of my eyelid) and it got massively infected, I was very lucky that everything is ok now.

TBH, I'm shocked about the weld/grind stuff. Does it get through the appropriate head wear?

POPPYOSCAR

I think it might be a 'boy' thing but ive been in AE 4 times with my son.Broke his arm falling from climbing frame, cut his eye open when standing behind friend swinging a golf club, slashed his knee open from a broken flower pot just before going on adventure trip with school and lastly pulling a ligament in his foot playing basketball at school!! Hope thats my lot now!!

I also find NHS Direct very useful, they recently gave me good advice when my daughter was unwell following an injection at school.

Soubrette

Kohoutek wrote: »

Reality is more complicated than Labour are always right and the everyone else is always wrong.

No Labour is left....no actually you were pretty much right the first time

ninky wrote: »

not being arrogant but i don't think the majority of the electorate get the basics of keynsians economics. not saying i'm an economic mastermind but history shows that you need public spending through tough times.

i'd hardly say it was my 'sole' opinion.

yes i have lost. and many others have lost. and we'll be feeling even more like losers a year from now.

The Japanese have been trying to do this unsuccessfully for years - if Keynsian economics always worked then it would just be called economics.

I voted LibDem and I am cautiously optimistic - I did not want Labour in again (how crap does a party have to get before the party faithful say enough is enough?) I did not want the Conservatives in (partly because of the Thatcher years). I am extremely concerned about civil liberties and am glad to see the back of ID cards. With regards to the economy I think we do not have as much power over it as we like to think.

I'm hoping this will the new era of politics that Tony Blair promised and reneged on, one of compromise and working together. Having read the posts in this thread I am not sure if we as a nation are actually capable of it though - too many people see things as black and white yes or no, principled or power hungry.

AFAICS every single MP in the house of parliament, unless they are a true independent, would have to compromise on their principles to get the most important things through. Every voter (maybe there's one or two!!) will not agree with every single thing in the manifesto of the party they vote for so they will have to judge which party is the one that they choose to vote in based on which issues are more important to them.

I've voted for LibDem every time (for different reasons) and ideally I would have voted Green this time. However in the absence of that choice I voted LibDem as my second option and now it's time for me to face my responsibilities. It's easy to be a voter who always votes for the one who can never get in, whose policies will never be enacted. Now I'm going to see some direct consequences to my vote - I hope it they are mostly good ones

Sou

de1amo

Lib dems will have to take the tory whip and once these headline changes have been paid lip service to there will be no more Lib dem independance of thought--tow the line or face the consequences!

POPPYOSCAR

Sou I voted for neither party but I feel the same as you.Hopefully this will be a different kind of politics and will work out, only time will tell.

Soubrette

de1amo wrote: »

Lib dems will have to take the tory whip and once these headline changes have been paid lip service to there will be no more Lib dem independance of thought--tow the line or face the consequences!

What consequences? Being kicked out the party? Oops just lost my majority there

Sou

de1amo

if they dont stick close to the tories they will be thrown to no where land at the next election--the party will be over in months!

Soubrette

POPPYOSCAR wrote: »

Sou I voted for neither party but I feel the same as you.Hopefully this will be a different kind of politics and will work out, only time will tell.

And the will. The LibDems want PR which means hung parliaments are much more likely - do they have the maturity and gumption to make it work? The early signs are promising for the LibDems and Conservatives, not so good with Labour. Even if PR doesn't happen, I see more hung parliaments in this generation due to general disillusionment with the system and more choice. If Labour's principles are so black and white - they may never get back into power again as well as acting as a destablising factor for the UK

Personally, I want to see us move towards a system where all parts of the electorate are represented in Parliament.

That is much harder work for the 'winners' that having a landslide victory though.

Sou

de1amo

one hung parliament in 63 years and its a regular occurence--PR are will never happen --the tories and the labour supporters will vote down any referundum

Soubrette

de1amo wrote: »

if they dont stick close to the tories they will be thrown to no where land at the next election--the party will be over in months!

I don't know if that is true. My MP is a good enough one - not great but better than average and I'm happy to keep him. He came out quite well in the expenses fiasco and does quite well in attendence and pretty much votes the way I would like him.

If I hadn't felt that all of Parliament needed a kick up the back this term he would have been my first choice. I wanted to register a protest vote against the whole system this time round Unless the LibDems foul up really badly then I shall vote for him again.

I don't see the LibDems actions as a betrayal, I see it as a pragmatic solution to a) gaining influence and b) stabilising the country and despite not being a tory in my leanings (except possibly with civil liberties and less government interference in personal matters) I think it is fair that the party with the most votes is the one that forms the major part of a Goverment.

I'm pleased that the party that I voted for on numerous occasions now has the ability to enact some of the policies that I voted for rather than the big fat zero that they were able to enact before.

How they perform from now will inform my future vote.