Guess who is not voting Lib Dem next election

ninky_2

tomterm8 wrote: »

I'm going to repeat myself for the last time... the Liberal Democrats have abandoned the policies I personally as a voter most care about, in order to get things past that I as a voter least care about, and so I as a voter, won't be voting for them again next election.

There. You can disagree with me, you can think these policies are great. I've already said some areas where I think the agreement is right, but on balance I can't vote for it.



I am not sure at the moment. I think it may be necessary to start a new party.

that was the mistake the social democrats made. it just splits the vote. far better to fight for policy you care about within existing parties. that is where the compromise has to come. before you put your manifesto out. not afterwards.

Really2

POPPYOSCAR wrote: »

You are very lucky then.I was in A & E last year when one of my daughters friends got something in her eye at her party.We must have been there for 5 hours at least.She was seen when we first went in and then seen by someone else and then had to wait to have her eye flushed out.I have been in A & E several times over the last few years with my children and family and friends
and it has always been the same.The only time we got quick treatment was when my son fell off a climbing frame while we were out and an ambulance was called, because he arrived by ambulance he was taken straight through
to be seen and the bone was sticking out of his arm.

I think that is the point, being seen in my eyes is not someone doing a pre-assesment and getting your details.

Your A&E experience is the total turn around time. So yes you may have someone say hello and take your details, but that does not mean you have been treated and are on your way out of A&E.:)

ninky_2

POPPYOSCAR wrote: »

Have you been to A & E lately? Last time I was there we had to wait for hours.

you only have to wait hours if you have something non urgent. it means that if you turn up with a heart attack there is someone to see you straight away. in my experience they get someone to assess you pretty quickly and then operate a system of most urgent gets seen first rather than first come first served.

ninky_2

POPPYOSCAR wrote: »

You are very lucky then.I was in A & E last year when one of my daughters friends got something in her eye at her party.We must have been there for 5 hours at least.She was seen when we first went in and then seen by someone else and then had to wait to have her eye flushed out.I have been in A & E several times over the last few years with my children and family and friends
and it has always been the same.The only time we got quick treatment was when my son fell off a climbing frame while we were out and an ambulance was called, because he arrived by ambulance and the bone was sticking out of his arm, he was taken straight through

i actually don't see what the problem is with this. having something in your eye is not a medical emergency and it should wait whilst people with bones sticking out are seen.....

Really2

ninky wrote: »

i actually don't see what the problem is with this. having something in your eye is not a medical emergency and it should wait whilst people with bones sticking out are seen.....

I don't think she is saying it was, she is just stating you are not in and out in an instant like some are making out.

POPPYOSCAR

ninky wrote: »

i actually don't see what the problem is with this. having something in your eye is not a medical emergency and it should wait whilst people with bones sticking out are seen.....

I am not saying it was an emergency(although it wasn't just anything in her eye it was from the contents of a glow stick which I now know is powdered glass!!).I was responding to the post that said that we would now have to wait 10 hours in A and E under the new government.It has always been that an emergency will get immediate atttention can't see that someone with a heart attack is now going to have wait 10 hours.

kennyboy66_2

POPPYOSCAR wrote: »

You are very lucky then.I was in A & E last year when one of my daughters friends got something in her eye at her party.We must have been there for 5 hours at least.

Obviously don't know the exact details - but sounds like something that not to long ago Mum would have self-treated with Optrex or something.

Failing that you may have been better going to a "walk in centre" or similar.

One of the problems is that A & E is full of people who shouldn't be there.

POPPYOSCAR

kennyboy66 wrote: »

Obviously don't know the exact details - but sounds like something that not to long ago Mum would have self-treated with Optrex or something.

Failing that you may have been better going to a "walk in centre" or similar.

One of the problems is that A & E is full of people who shouldn't be there.

I read the packet of the glow sticks and it said in case it breaks and gets into the eyes to seek immediate medical treatment. It was 11.00pm (sleepover party) phoned her mum and she said to take her to A & E and would meet us there. I would not presume to know how to treat this or treat someone elses child anyway.

(the girl could'nt open her eye, we tried to flush with water but she was extremely distressed)

Really2

kennyboy66 wrote: »

One of the problems is that A & E is full of people who shouldn't be there.

Unless diagnosed it is hard to know that though.
I use NHS direct, if they say go to A&E it is hardly your fault if it turns out not to be the emergency you thought it was.

Anyone with a sprain or twist generally do not need to be there but in general it can be hard tell without an x-ray.

POPPYOSCAR

kennyboy66 wrote: »

Obviously don't know the exact details - but sounds like something that not to long ago Mum would have self-treated with Optrex or something.

Failing that you may have been better going to a "walk in centre" or similar.

One of the problems is that A & E is full of people who shouldn't be there.

Some people are very judgemental on here.When my son twisted his foot at school and I got a call to collect him - they wheeled him out in a wheelchair.the first thing I did was take him to the GP surgery- THEY told me to take him to A & E. Some of us are not medical experts and just try to do the best for our children.