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Guess who is not voting Lib Dem next election
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Hm, that's going to be an interesting one, he's working with two thoroughly right wing tories... isn't Mr Webb supposed to be on the left side of the party?
He is nearer to the left than to the right certainly but, IIRC, he backed Nick in the last leadership election.
I know IDS was a right wing fruitcake in the nineties but he had a Damascene conversion to the cause of the poor after spending some time on a sink estate in Manchester when leading the Tories. I believe that his Centre for Social Justice is well intentioned but the addition of Steve Webb, if confirmed, is great.
Can you now see why I find this coalition very very exciting."There's no such thing as Macra. Macra do not exist."
"I could play all day in my Green Cathedral".
"The Centuries that divide me shall be undone."
"A dream? Really, Doctor. You'll be consulting the entrails of a sheep next. "0 -
Spartacus_Mills wrote: »I would not believe all you hear.
Can you expand on that? Or maybe not if you are the incredibly bright Steve Webb
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Can you expand on that? Or maybe not if you are the incredibly bright Steve Webb
Sou
No, I am not I was referring to "the leadership of the libdems didn't like Steve Webb much?"
TBH I do not know, I was just playing the party line"There's no such thing as Macra. Macra do not exist."
"I could play all day in my Green Cathedral".
"The Centuries that divide me shall be undone."
"A dream? Really, Doctor. You'll be consulting the entrails of a sheep next. "0 -
Spartacus_Mills wrote: »No, I am not I was referring to "the leadership of the libdems didn't like Steve Webb much?"
TBH I do not know, I was just playing the party line, you libdem kidders
This must be a very exciting time for you
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i feel sorry for those that voted LD based on their policies because what they have done is to get in 'bed' with the enemy--no other party that took seats would go near the tories because they have memories long enough to remember their brand of govenance -DC can spin all he likes but the Tories will show their true colours over time and the rich will get richer at the expense of the normal person--the normal person Nick Clegg claimed to represent.--the LİB Dems will become irrelevant in time and if they spit the dummy DC will have to call another election with them as irrelevant in politics.
labour will probably go through a period in-fighting and dissarray as they find a new path to replace NUlabour. --if we study history its all happened before and as they say its the best guide to the future!mfw'11 No68- 55k mortgage İO--little to nothing saved! i must do better.0 -
Well I for one am happy - if this had been on the polling card, it is what I would have voted for!
A mix of policies that I generally agree with.0 -
Fallout begins? http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/hereford/worcs/8682403.stmIt's getting harder & harder to keep the government in the manner to which they have become accustomed.0
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lemonjelly wrote: »Fallout begins? http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/hereford/worcs/8682403.stm
Already?:rotfl: I'd have given it a couple of weeks at least...
Not surprising libdem grassroots aren't too happy with Nick's sell-out. Half the manifesto overboard just for a glimpse of power.
All in the 'interest of the country' of course
And some on here blame Labour for too much spin....--the LİB Dems will become irrelevant in time and if they spit the dummy DC will have to call another election with them as irrelevant in politics.
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Thrugelmir wrote: »Interestingly Labour has to rethink where it stands. Many voters have known little more than New Labour. Whereas the true roots of the Labour party are more left than the middle ground than Blair positioned it. Now that the two architects of New Labour have gone. Will Milliband be allowed to continue with the ethos of NL or will more traditional views gain the upper hand.
PR may be the answer even for the Labour party.
A lurch to the left would be a disaster. Labour has always been a broad church and at their best do push though progressive policies on for example;
Sex Equality
Race equality
Homosexuality
Abortion
Health
Education
Minimum Wage
I'm not sure how many MP's have what you describe as traditional views - the militant was purged and many of the looney left Bennites have long gone. Even in the wilderness years Dennis Healey style Labour was more popular than Michael Foot version with the actual voters.
A lurch to the left would make them like the Liberals of the recent past - a purity of ideology, but un-electable. And I often think the real zeolots of all main parties prefer it that way.US housing: it's not a bubble
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lemonjelly wrote: »Fallout begins? http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/hereford/worcs/8682403.stm
I'd love to see a market on the first Lib-Dem member of cabinet to walk.
My money would be on Vince Cable.
He is 67 and seems less star struck than other Lib-Dems who can hardly stop grinning now they have got a scent of power.
Plus, how long could anyone work with that cretin Osbourne.
He could then go on strictly come dancing before its too late.US housing: it's not a bubble
Moneyweek, December 20050
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