Guess who is not voting Lib Dem next election

de1amo

i would actually say it was deceitful--or one big con!

Spartacus_Mills

ninky wrote: »

i don't expect that from the lib dems. they'd prop up any party to get themselves in power. and they'd put anything in their manifesto to con voters - then decide for themselves which bits are convenient to keep and which policy areas they'd agree to vote in entirely the opposite way.

one word for it. shifty.

Actually principled is the word to describe the arrangement.

The Lib Dems would not prop up any party to get power. We told Labour to take a hike

What you seem to forget is that before the Lib Dems were created we were a true centre party and liberalism was our position. We were opposed to Thatcher as she was a social authoritarian (which is rare for a Tory) It was only the old right wing rump of the Labour Party, the SDP, that took us to a centre left position and largely forgot about the more liberal aspects of our approach. We are, and should always be, a centre party capable of appealing to left and right. We should never be seen as the conscience of the Labour Party. The fact we are simply shows the Labour party lacks its own conscience and own morality.

I appreciate you are sore about Labour getting hammered and as for your posts about it I expect no more. The coalition is 1 day old and already the usual suspects are already ranting about it. It just reinforces the image of Labour supporters being bitter and tribal. I read Andrew Adonis's piece on the coalition in The Guardian. Just as small minded and petty.

Now, the government have things to deliver and will get on with the job of repairing the economy and undoing the damage Gordon Brown has wreaked on the country. Most of the measures announced have pleased me. There is one so far I am not happy with but time will tell. This is exceptionally good news.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/henryporter/2010/may/12/coalition-proposals-civil-rights

Spartacus_Mills

de1amo wrote: »

i would actually say it was deceitful--or one big con!

How on earth is it deceitful ?

Nick Clegg made it crystal clear before the election on what basis he would negotiate and he kept to that.

As for a con, how is it a con. In what sense is it a con ?

It is not a con at all. Nick Clegg also made it clear that he would consider partnerships of either form with the main parties if we did not win a majority. By doing so we are getting many of our policies into government which is why the party is there in the first place and by doing so we are watering down some of the more bonkers Tory policies - IHT anyone ?

You may simply want to play student politics, sit on the sidelines and be defined by what you oppose rather than what you stand for. Your choice. However we had a once in a lifetime opportunity to influence government policy from the centre and change the country for good. We have taken it. It is fantastic.

tomterm8

So, in other words, we no longer have a Liberal Democratic party. The Liberal Democrats were founded from the Liberal AND Social Democratic Party. If the Liberal Democratic party has no intention of standing up for half its founding policies, and half its voters, I would have thought it would be better off telling people like me before the election.

ninky_2

Spartacus_Mills wrote: »

The Lib Dems would not prop up any party to get power. We told Labour to take a hike

oh did you now? and what sort of 'we' was that. were you personally involved? amazing how you have time to post on here with all these top end negotiations you are conducting.

yes the coalition is 1 day old. so that means it's okay for you to rave about how great it is. but i'm not allowed to be critical?

Spartacus_Mills

tomterm8 wrote: »

So, in other words, we no longer have a Liberal Democratic party. The Liberal Democrats were founded from the Liberal AND Social Democratic Party. If the Liberal Democratic party has no intention of standing up for half its founding policies, and half its voters, I would have thought it would be better off telling people like me before the election.

Of course we have a Liberal Democratic Party. We have a party that fought an election on a platform of various policies many of which we are now getting introduced due to being in government with the Tories.

shaggydoo

BACKFRMTHEEDGE wrote: »

OMG look what the Lib Dems have allowed to be in charge of education. This is unforgivable.



I'm so depressed:(

Feeling your pain:( There is a big black cloud hanging over my school's staff room this morning. I think those who voted Lib Dem are feeling guilty. In the main these were us younger members of staff.

Who'd have thought that a vote for the Lib Dems was a vote for the "Con"servatives?

Chin up.

de1amo

does sound like deceit to me--the labour party refused to compromise its core values --i dont think labour got as hammered as much as people thought--Dc still didnt win the electoral majority despite the almost blanket favouritism of the press(and internet coverage)--it was time for a change in the mind of the population but what horse trading that has gone on is to the detriment of the lib dems--they are finished!

posh*spice

Nick Clegg has stiched up his voters and the country for his 5 minutes in the sun.

Well I hope he enjoys it

GeneHunt_2

Stryder wrote: »

I was thinking more batman and robin

Holy totalitarian state Batman, this 55% needed for disillusion of parliament will keep us in jobs for 5 years!

Morecambe and Wise