Kleeneeze or Betterware?

Jeanetteathome

SkintButHappy wrote: »

Have you even looked in a Kleeneze catalogue recently? Cleaning products for the kitchen - they run out. Foot and hand cream - they run out one of my best customers buys 2 foot lotions a month - one for him for the wife. Makeup- it runs out. Shampoo/conditioner/nail varnish - they all run out. Kitchen foil - it runs out. Cling Film - it runs out.

I could go on....

I am expanding my customers atm so ok I am looking for new customers, but I also spend alot of time recruiting too. I still have time to service my 300+ customers monthly, expand, and recruit, and coach. Round a full time job. In fact my Kleeneze business pays for most of my rent and bills and my wages go on paying off my debts.

If anyone wants to ask any questions about how, why and if it really does work to an active distributor who's business turnover grows month on month feel free to inbox me

Hmm , so with just 300 customers and a few on the team you reckon you are good for £700. Is that £700 before or after all the expenses come out? is that the income cheque they email you? If it is I'd seriously look at your costs after fuel and all the online costs.

As to the products - you name the cling film , it was triple the cost of the stuff sold in Asda and of such poor quality the bit I did sell people complained about.

petestan

niftyone wrote: »

I would i have thought that you would no by now Pete that your not allowed to spam the site with Kleeneze HQ Motivational/Promotional Videos here.

that is a youtube video hence why I put it up, it's not to a site promoting anyone to sign up. So I am not allowed to post anything as proof that says Kleeneze can work, the only people allowed to post things are those slagging the company off with no evidence at all except their personal belief that they have been ripped off.
Plenty of others have posted links including the squidoo site which has been posted numerous times, yet whenever I post anything I am constantly told I am not allowed.

petestan

Jeanetteathome wrote: »

Were there other distributors there? were there any poundshops , big asdas or a myriad of other bargain or poundland shops? I think not it's Guernsey. There was a poster here - more than concerned - who spoke of full time retailing a 1000 books a week and couldn't make anything like that it cost more in fuel and equipment that was worth it , if people don't buy they don't buy . In big cities on housing estates distributors are falling over each other.

You might be impressed with stories like this - they are rolled out for all the gullible to lap up , you have already , but they bare NO relationship to any reality seen by the VAST majority of retailers.

In my earlier post I pointed out a bronze I knew who'd got to gold in just six weeks. If it was that easy now why couldn't I do it after a year of full time and unlimited outlay? Few do it thats why, thats why they had to pick golds out of a hat for Club Med 2, so few had made bronze.

Now the economy is up the chute I fear many will be taken in by the adverts , backed up by people linking to stories like the one you've trumpeted here. How many will waste precious money joining kleeneze on spurious adverts and promises.

I for one hope they read this whole thread and see it for what it is - a right rip off ,

Of course there would be other distributors there before him and you will still get new distributors now, while he is still doing ihis £3000 a month.

Pound shops, etc. I don't know Guernsey but I presume it's no different than the rest of the UK.
I know for a fact that he did the exact same thing when he started around the Morecambe area (I had a good friend who was also a distributor in that area) and was earning similar cheques while he lived there and that was in 2006 - 2008.

petestan

shirleymarye wrote: »

I am very surprised that the authorities in Guernsey allowed this person to do Kleeneze,they are very careful who lives on the island and what they do to earn money! My own mother in law was born in Guernsey and she left to live in Canada and when she wanted to return they wouldn't allow it,you have to buy your own house and have a set income per annum to live on. OK the guy lives with his partner,she must either have her own property or be working there with accommodation but his earnings are very suspect!

I don't know anything about Guernsey but to say his earnings are suspect when if you google paul tonkin kleeneze you will see loads of different cheques for him. Yes they are gross and he has expenses off that but they won't be anywhere near that.

jhp

petestan wrote: »

I don't know Guernsey but I presume it's no different than the rest of the UK.

Its not part of the UK Pete.

jhp

wongawonga wrote: »

Findel the owners of Kleeneze share price sunk to an all time low of 3.5 pence this week,was 760 pence approx 6 years ago.This is after investors have subscribed to 2 emergency cash raising share issues at 21pence and 7pence in the last 2 years.

All will become clearer when they release there half year figures to the 30/9/2011 on the 29/11/2011.

http://www.londonstockexchange.com/exchange/news/market-news/market-news-detail.html?announcementId=11024558

petestan

jhp wrote: »

Its not part of the UK Pete.

Now were getting clever, it's a crown dependency.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guernsey

PatrickD

Yes, Guernsey has pound shops, one of them is called Pound World Plus and apparently its not doing too well, they had to lay off staff!

http://www.thisisjersey.com/latest/2009/02/03/thirty-jobs-go-as-pound-world-folds/

I notice that on this site, the many detractors of Direct Selling use price as one of their main arguments. This is wrong, most people don't shop in pound shops, even though you can get most things cheaper there. Most people don't shop in Lidl or Asda either. My wife and I shop in Waitrose, probably the most expensive chain and when you walk in we're far from being the only people there.
People are usually quite happy to pay extra for their products to be delivered to them and I've never had a price objection with my company.
Price? Not a valid argument. If people shop at pound shops they're not your target market, move on and find those that are. Simples

Pat

ColinAllCars

PatrickD wrote: »

I notice that on this site, the many detractors of Direct Selling use price as one of their main arguments. This is wrong, most people don't shop in pound shops, even though you can get most things cheaper there. Most people don't shop in Lidl or Asda either. My wife and I shop in Waitrose, probably the most expensive chain

Given that this is a money saving site is that a surprise. Even Waitrose introduced a cheaper range to maintain sales.

PatrickD

ColinAllCars wrote: »

Given that this is a money saving site is that a surprise. Even Waitrose introduced a cheaper range to maintain sales.

This particular forum is also about upping your income, but whenever anyone mentions or suggests anything about doing that, they're immediately jumped on and accused of being a spammer. Its incredible, how are people going to find out about income opportunities if you're not allowed to post about them?

Pat