Kleeneeze or Betterware?

Honest_John_666

petestan wrote: »

I have been doing kleeneze for 9 years now, I started exactly the same way as everyone else, with 50 books in my case, I have around 1000 customers that are happy to buy from me regularly, quite a few of those have been ordering off me for most if not all those 9 years. Not one person is forced to buy from the catalogue everyone has a choice.

I also regularly drop a few customers who decide they don't want to order from me or who haven't ordered in the last 6 months or who are a pain to get the book back from and I regularly reblanket on streets that I have blanketed half a dozen times over the last 9 years and yet somehow, miraculously, I still get orders from customers who have never ordered off me before or who have ordered off me in the past and either they decided they didn't want another book at that time or I dropped because they hadn't ordered in a while.

As for the distributor websites, Kleeneze now have official ones for every distributor called mykleeneze.com/...... , at the moment distributors are still allowed to have their own websites as well, but I am very sure that sometime soon kleeneze will stop them having their own and force everyone to use the official ones for the very reason you state.

Oh and I live in a small town in Lancashire with a population around the 15,000 mark but when I started, unknown to myself, there were 4 established distributors and 2 newbie ones including myself but I still got orders on my very first drops.

Pete......struggling with Jeanette aren't you :rotfl: sound like a VERY clue up person :rotfl:

Did you invite/beg/ask you upline to get Gavin on:rotfl:cant see him lasting :rotfl: unles he gets someone else to write for him

Anyway are you going to answer my question........hows your sales year on year then pete??? :cool:

Regards
John

Honest_John_666

billsavings wrote: »

Mr Scott is that not the Guy who claims you can achieve financial independence with a fabulous lifestyle by working full-time with Kleeneze.:rotfl:Dream on !!

Gavin has achieved I suppose financial freedom. :money:

No one else ever will FACT :cool:

Kleeneze are going backwards & going backwards fast

Regards
John

Ypaymore

Honest_John_666 wrote: »

Gavin has achieved I suppose financial freedom.

He makes it quite clear what he thinks of people that dont get Kleeneze. Charming individual !

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=646056&l=bf5b7078c7&id=102677056457556

wongawonga

Findel PlC the owner of Kleeneze shares big drop in price are now down to 3.7p a share.:eek:

I see they are selling off some land to reinvest in the business.

http://www.blackburncitizen.co.uk/news/9284746.91_homes_plan_for_old_Accrington_warehouse_site/

competitionscafe

"The nonprofit Consumer Awareness Institute analyzed available data published by the MLM companies themselves. Of the companies surveyed, they reported the least successful was Amway/Quixtar where 99.99% of distributors lose money, and the most successful was Herbalife, where 99.42% of distributors lose money."

"In a Wisconsin lawsuit, the tax returns of the top 200 of 20,000 network marketing participants were examined by the Attorney General. The average income of this top 1% was -$900."

"During yet another lawsuit in the UK, the government found that less than one in ten participants ever sold even a single product to another person."

All from: http://skeptoid.com/episodes/4176

Honest_John_666

wongawonga wrote: »

Findel PlC the owner of Kleeneze shares big drop in price are now down to 3.7p a share.:eek:

I see they are selling off some land to reinvest in the business.

http://www.blackburncitizen.co.uk/news/9284746.91_homes_plan_for_old_Accrington_warehouse_site/

Told you all it wasn't going well didn't I :cool:

C'mon where are all the Kleeneze people :rotfl:

Cant wait for the end of years accounts.......

Regards
John

Honest_John_666

Ypaymore wrote: »

He makes it quite clear what he thinks of people that dont get Kleeneze. Charming individual !

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=646056&l=bf5b7078c7&id=102677056457556

Charming man........hmmmm........ a BS'er YES

Even called me a !!!!??? once........told him to go a get a speil checker :rotfl:

C'mon Gavin come back.........baby come back..........Ooooo that song will stay with me all day now :rotfl:

Regards
John

Honest_John_666

competitionscafe wrote: »

"The nonprofit Consumer Awareness Institute analyzed available data published by the MLM companies themselves. Of the companies surveyed, they reported the least successful was Amway/Quixtar where 99.99% of distributors lose money, and the most successful was Herbalife, where 99.42% of distributors lose money."

"In a Wisconsin lawsuit, the tax returns of the top 200 of 20,000 network marketing participants were examined by the Attorney General. The average income of this top 1% was -$900."

"During yet another lawsuit in the UK, the government found that less than one in ten participants ever sold even a single product to another person."

All from: http://skeptoid.com/episodes/4176

Crikey.......didn't think it was that bad are you sure???

This is an old article you've dragged up :cool:

Regards
John

shirleymarye

OH!! I did Amway in the 80s,never made any money at that either,lost money actually,didn't realise it was still around!

Honest_John_666

CRIKEY........Findels share price dropping fast.........Xmas sales not going anywhere naer as good as they thought..........

PETE what is going on????

Do you have any news???

Hope your OK & haven't got a big mortgage/bills etc as it dont look good out there for you guys

It will be tougher year next year I absoluley guartantee it

Regards
John