Kleeneeze or Betterware?

wongawonga

Interesting post here warts and all by KleenezeGuru

http://www.horshamforum.co.uk/Topic335-21-12.aspx

Honest_John_666

Crikey........I've read somthing similar to that before

Read back a couple of pages & there's Tim Pace with the same old rubbish :mad:

Quick update.......Gavin Scott started Emailing me again with you've guessed it......look at this person......look at this single mother with 15 kids.......... if she can do this you can do this codswallop :rotfl:

Anyway......after a bit of banter........I asked him to explain why he thought his group sales had gone backwards in each of the last 5 years???

I got a few replies of......look @ this person again & I kept asking the same question....

FINALLY I GOT AN ANSWER.............

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"I'm taking you off my Email list":rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

THEN.......I get an Email from someone else in his group yeterday.

Hes obviousley after about 10/15 weeks of sending Emails to myself given up on me & passed my details over to a lady :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

Cant wait for her response :cool:

Regards
Honest John

Peter_Pan

wongawonga wrote: »

Interesting post ..here warts and all by KleenezeGuru

http://www.horshamforum.co.uk/Topic335-21-12.aspx

Ah that explains alot of our Kleeneze experience in the early 2000s. We were encouraged to try different methods of retail as well as the brochures as one street had 5 distributors just in one week!!! but Kleeneze products didn't lend themselves too well with other methods of retail which is something i looked into before joining my current Company whose product range and different angles to promote does lend itself to lots of different ways

Debbie

wongawonga

Sales down at Kleeneze but recruiting up.

If recruiting was up would you not expect to see an increase in sales not a decrease ?


"Within Kleeneze the difficult economic environment is creating a challenge with sales below the prior year in the first quarter. However, we have continued to see strong distributor growth from a number of recruitment initiatives including our 'Break Free' programme and, based on results to date, believe that we are being successful in recruiting effective/productive distributors"


http://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/Findel-PLC-Interim-Management-afxcnf-3500954832.html?x=0&.v=1

Honest_John_666

wongawonga wrote: »

Sales down at Kleeneze but recruiting up.

If recruiting was up would you not expect to see an increase in sales not a decrease ?


"Within Kleeneze the difficult economic environment is creating a challenge with sales below the prior year in the first quarter. However, we have continued to see strong distributor growth from a number of recruitment initiatives including our 'Break Free' programme and, based on results to date, believe that we are being successful in recruiting effective/productive distributors"

Doesn't make sense to me either :eek:

The sales below doesn't tell you exactly HOW MUCH below does it.

Not sure what a 'break free' programme is probably something to do with the chains of people

Very typical company spiel IMO but it isn't good just like said.

Feelings out on the street are that they are all hanging onto the hope that the xmas period will get them out of the mire.......IMO I don't think that will happen.

This is a backwards roller-coaster, long term damage has been done & the effect IMO is irreversible

Regards
John

wongawonga

Honest_John_666 wrote: »

Not sure what a 'break free' programme is probably something to do with the chains of people

Hi HJ.


Its the Free To Join Kleeneze scheme where the distributor get,s 5 catalogues to get some orders from friends and family etc to get them off the ground. This is possibly why recruiting figures are up.

They dont even have to stay to get there investment back . So it resullts in even quicker churning.:eek:

Honest_John_666

wongawonga wrote: »

Hi HJ.


Its the Free To Join Kleeneze scheme where the distributor get,s 5 catalogues to get some orders from friends and family etc to get them off the ground. This is possibly why recruiting figures are up.

They dont even have to stay to get there investment back . So it resullts in even quicker churning.:eek:

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

AH yes...........this was the all new singing & dancing amazing confernece announcement

I see its worked well then :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

Cheers WW

wongawonga

I see the prices of some products have increased considerably in the Kleeneze catalogue. Another reason for customers not to buy/stop buying.

niftyone

I answered and ad which read something like this ." I am looking for determined, positive folks to join my growing team.PT/ FT with flexible hours, generous commission, excellent bonus plan ,with car & travel incentives." Sneakily no mention of Kleeneze.

When i called they said its Kleeneze.:eek: I quickily said no thank you, not for me.

bendtoy_2

Just had the Kleeneze Xmas 2011 Catalogue through the door . Talk about shop early for Crimbo.

What a load of expensive Tat.:eek: