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Kleeneeze or Betterware?
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I was a Kleeneze distributor for about a year and I ended up owing them more money than I got in sales. There's a lot of walking involved, sometimes you have to return to the same area 3 times to collect your books and it's very rare you get them all back. There are no boundaries to where you can deliver and very often I would be leaving catalogues when there was already another one waiting for collection. It's very hit and miss. Oh and they say you can work with 100 books but in reality and to achieve the numbers they claim you really need more like 400.
Every distributor goes through the ups and downs that you talk about on the catalogue side. Some people quit, some people it spurrs them on to do better. If its just catalogues your interested in making money from join betterware. People dont join kleeneze for the catalogues, they join to build a team and massive royalty incomes.0 -
BargainGalore wrote: »I suppose its a choice between two rubbish companies, neither is wanted in most homes and both sell this dream that is a wonderful opportunity, when sadly it isnt the case
Oh and most of the goods can be bought at Wilkinsons, Home bargains or poundland for much less
Whats knowledge is this based on? Have you asked people in most homes if they want it? Typical ignorance on your part here. Seems like you have no business knowledge at all.
Kleeneze is the founder of the Direct Selling Agency and has been in profit for 87 years. You may get some items cheaper in the shops you mention, but with kleeneze they deliver to your door with a no quibble return policy, even if its 3 months down the line since you bought an item. The service is incorporated into the cost.
Dont talk about things you know nothing about.0 -
I joined Kleeneze for the opportunity not to deliver catalogues.
Inn other words you are only interested in making money outn of other people's work.Anyone who tells you it doesnt work knows nothing.
This is tosh, It doesn't matter how hard you work, or how many catalogues you put through doors if your potential customers just throw them out again without placing an order.Kleeneze works if you are willing to put the effort in.
The only way it works is if you do team building. This involves recruiting people and getting a share of their income while they are doing it. Most give up in a few months as people don't buy from kleeneze. When you start you may get a few sales, but those customers soon realise they've bought over priced tosh and stop ordering.
So you have to continually work hard at recruiting more people to replace the ones who give up. This is the "work" that kleeneze refer to when they tell you that you can succeeded if you work hard enough.The moto goes "Kleeneze works, its people that dont".
It only works for the people who are making money from the ones below.If someone tells you they tried it and it didnt work, then they were not willing to go the extra mile to succeed with their business. They didnt put enough effort in. Its the hard work you do now that will reward you in the future with Kleeneze.
As I said, you can work your nuts off, but if the customers won't buy then you will fail. But while you are trying you will make money for the person who recruited you, and those above him.Hope this helps.
No, it didn't help at all. We all know the kleeneze mantra "Work hard enough and you will succeed". It sounds good, and people fall for it every day, but sooner or later they realise that all the hard work in the world will come to nothing without the customers placing orders.If you need to know more contact me.
Please don't contact him/her, he/she is only trying to recruit new people to earn more money for him, or her self. This is the "work" you have to do to make it work, continually recruit new people to replace those who give up because they can't get the orders.0 -
nice detailed and "spot on" answer there geordie
Kleeneeze is MLM , to earn big money you need to get loads of people signed up under you and for them to do the same creating the classic pyramid sales structure. Problem is after very few layers you run out of people to sign up
interesting review from a BIG ex rep
http://www.ciao.co.uk/Kleeneze_Catalogue__Review_5615673Ex forum ambassador
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Kleeneze is the founder of the Direct Selling Agency
Is that supposed to be something good?and has been in profit for 87 years.
Yes but they make their profit from selling catalogues/order forms etc. to their distributors, not from actually selling the items in the catalogue.0 -
If its just catalogues your interested in making money from join betterware. People dont join kleeneze for the catalogues, they join to build a team and massive royalty incomes.
If people "dont join kleeneze for the catalogues, they join to build a team and massive royalty incomes" who is delivering the catalogues?
Don't say the people below them, because they have joined for the royalty incomes too.0 -
nice detailed and "spot on" answer there geordie
I shouldn't do it really, kleeneze annoys me, as do the people who make money by persuading others to join under them.Kleeneeze is MLM , to earn big money you need to get loads of people signed up under you and for them to do the same creating the classic pyramid sales structure. Problem is after very few layers you run out of people to sign up
interesting review from a BIG ex rep
http://www.ciao.co.uk/Kleeneze_Catalogue__Review_5615673
Exactly, it's all based on recruiting people to sell a few items to the friends, neighbours, relatives etc. Then recruit more when that persons "leads" have dried up.
Makes me wonder how some people sleep at night.0 -
geordie_joe wrote: »Inn other words you are only interested in making money outn of other people's work.
This is tosh, It doesn't matter how hard you work, or how many catalogues you put through doors if your potential customers just throw them out again without placing an order.
The only way it works is if you do team building. This involves recruiting people and getting a share of their income while they are doing it. Most give up in a few months as people don't buy from kleeneze. When you start you may get a few sales, but those customers soon realise they've bought over priced tosh and stop ordering.
So you have to continually work hard at recruiting more people to replace the ones who give up. This is the "work" that kleeneze refer to when they tell you that you can succeeded if you work hard enough.
It only works for the people who are making money from the ones below.
As I said, you can work your nuts off, but if the customers won't buy then you will fail. But while you are trying you will make money for the person who recruited you, and those above him.
No, it didn't help at all. We all know the kleeneze mantra "Work hard enough and you will succeed". It sounds good, and people fall for it every day, but sooner or later they realise that all the hard work in the world will come to nothing without the customers placing orders.
Please don't contact him/her, he/she is only trying to recruit new people to earn more money for him, or her self. This is the "work" you have to do to make it work, continually recruit new people to replace those who give up because they can't get the orders.
sounds like you tried and failed, or you just focus on your own failings in life. I wasnt tryin to recruit, just tellin how it is from my own experience. We want people that want to succeed whatever their ambition. Dont get caught up in other people making money in the business. If you want to make the same money as them, you gotta start at the bottom, put the hard work in like they did. Everyone starts at the bottom.
You're basically saying that you cant get to the stage, where your earning what the top earners are. Are they better than you?? Are you really saying those people are better than you? They say to me, if i can do it, you can do it. Anyone can. Unfortunately not everyone likes the hard work that goes with it. Ring any bells??
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nice detailed and "spot on" answer there geordie
Kleeneeze is MLM , to earn big money you need to get loads of people signed up under you and for them to do the same creating the classic pyramid sales structure. Problem is after very few layers you run out of people to sign up
interesting review from a BIG ex rep
how can you run out of people:rotfl::rotfl:
Theres 65 million of us living here:rotfl:0 -
geordie_joe wrote: »If people "dont join kleeneze for the catalogues, they join to build a team and massive royalty incomes" who is delivering the catalogues?
Don't say the people below them, because they have joined for the royalty incomes too.
cant you read, we do put catalogues out but thats not the reason why we joined. People shouldnt join just to put catalogues out. Any clearer??0
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