Kleeneeze or Betterware?

thehog

I do Kleeneze part time round my full time job - nearly been doing it a year and if it wasn't for the lovely customers I have found and needing the money, I would jack it in. A hell of a lot of work for very little reward and the catalogues seem to change every 2 months, you have to buy them in order to keep up with all the other distributors in your area and the £7.50 really is a con. As is the delivery fee! When you order from Kiddicare.com, the online nursery store, they ship with Interlink Parcels and it is now free delivery when you place an order over £30. Kleeneze also use Interlink and yet I get charged £12.50 for an order under £100, then £6 for an order up to £250 (after which time shipping is free, as someone has mentioned in a previous post). I don't understand how they can justify all these fees! As for the team building, I started doing that but I get no money from my team until we make a combined profit of 10%, so we're all out there working our socks off and for what? £50 if I'm lucky, and that's if noone returns the goods, then you lose the commission that you've more than likely already spent!! Con-eze, my better half calls it!!

geordie_joe

thehog wrote: »

I don't understand how they can justify all these fees!

That's how they make their money, from the fees. Even if you never make a sale, they have still made a profit from you with the fees they charge.

xbrenx

I was a Kleeneze distributor for about a year and I ended up owing them more money than I got in sales. There's a lot of walking involved, sometimes you have to return to the same area 3 times to collect your books and it's very rare you get them all back. There are no boundaries to where you can deliver and very often I would be leaving catalogues when there was already another one waiting for collection. It's very hit and miss. Oh and they say you can work with 100 books but in reality and to achieve the numbers they claim you really need more like 400.

JennyJewell

Peter_Pan wrote: »

Thats why i joined Wikaniko because its different, everyone are distributors including the people running it, all profits are used to benefit the distributors and customers . The more products we sell the more buying power is created and we can then keep prices low for the customers, co-operative marketing - a great idea. Eco-friendly prices tend to be higher than non eco-friendly products but with this idea, we join and buy our own items from ourselves at wholesale prices instead of Supermarkets etc and also spread the word locally and encourage people to do the same or buy products from us helping everyone become a bit greener easily and we earn an extra income as well. Wikaniko products not only benefit the Earth but are also everyday useage products in the main.

Hi Peter Pan
I have pm'd you
Jen

thehog

geordie_joe wrote: »

That's how they make their money, from the fees. Even if you never make a sale, they have still made a profit from you with the fees they charge.

Defintely Con eze then

JennyJewell

I worked for 8 years with Kleeneze and to be honest really enjoyed the team spirit in our group but there are some really pushy distributors out there. Having said that it worked for me at a time when I needed it
Betterware is great in the fact that you don't pay a single penny out I found sales a little lower than Kleeneze though - having said that I only gave it a few weeks so not a fair comparison really.
I'm very interested in Wikaniko though - it's ticks all the boxes that I have been looking for - big range of products from cleaning to pets to make-up,(cosmetics always being the hardest to find that are chemical free)! and they're all eco friendly so will have a serious look at this business
Jen

Peter_Pan

Hi Jenny, talking about team spirit, in Wikaniko we have a forum and all distributors help each other regardless of what team they are in and come up with ideas etc as the distributors are the Company and its like being a big family, we are all wanting to do our bit to help the Planet first and foremost and Wikaniko is a great vehicle to give people the opportunity to help people go greener by providing all the products in one place and the distributors can earn an extra income and build a big Business if thats what they want as well Very exciting.

dipamj

My wife and I have been with Kleeneze for 8 years and we have built up a customer base of around 400 customers and a team of 20 odd distributors. We currently earn over £1000 every 4 weeks part time around my job. We love it as the team we are with are not pushy and most of them are now friends rather than business partners. I would thoroughly recomend it to anyone but find the right team and people to work with. People who fail generally have due to lack of support from the person who introduced them (the company are great), not following the recomended system or not given it enough time to develop. You will earn money from the start but it will grow over the initial 2 to 5 months as your customer base develops and if you decide to build a team. Running costs are approx £25-£35 per month, which you can take from your profits.

Currently, the company has an start up offer for 200 catalogues.It is down from £156 to £99, which is great value when the basic kit with 50 catalogues is £80.

Hope this helps. PM me if you need any more info.

Peter_Pan

We built a good customer base with Kleeneze but as we live in a village we had to travel to other towns to find enough customers and the toing and froing to collect brochures which weren't left out and do deliveries really ate into our profits.

andye32

BeautyandtheBeast wrote: »

i looked at both and tbh betterware is better - no outlay, designated area (kleeneze say that there is loads of room for everyone - not always the case!) 20% of takings for betterware with no sanctions shoudl you lose, ruin books etc.
i would suggest you try betterware (for free) rather than forking out loads for kleeneze but thats my opinon.

Reply to statement above

If you wanna just deliver catalogues and earn from the retail join betterware. If you want to build up to massive royalty incomes join Kleeneze. I joined Kleeneze for the opportunity not to deliver catalogues. Of course i do deliver catalogues and have a customer base but i concentrate on the team building side to build my income.


My experience with Kleeneze below

Anyone who tells you it doesnt work knows nothing. Kleeneze works if you are willing to put the effort in. The moto goes "Kleeneze works, its people that dont". To start your own business you need thousands of ££££'s, to start Kleeneze you need £139 and theres no risk. There is a very high quit rate cus people want easy money, but theres no such thing. All millionaire business people work very hard to get there. Its the same with Kleeneze.

If someone tells you they tried it and it didnt work, then they were not willing to go the extra mile to succeed with their business. They didnt put enough effort in. Its the hard work you do now that will reward you in the future with Kleeneze.

Hope this helps.

If you need to know more contact me.