Kleeneeze or Betterware?

Honest_John_666

Thanks for the reply Pete

As this thread says........Kleeneeze or Betterware....... NO COMPETITION IS IT????

The reason you left before was & you can read back through is you couldn't or wouldn't answer everything & typical of Kleeneze once they get questioned

Your OK & good luck to you, thats why you come on here.

I will continue to tell everyone I know, what I know, very factually & in 99% of the cases it isn't good.....in fact Kleeneze IMO are one or the worst cases about

The day Kleeneze dies a death will be a much much happier place in the world......... IMO & with my experiences of well over 10 years

Regards
John

OldGreyFox

Hi Pete,

Havent seen any pictures lately of Kleeneze Big Cheques. Do they still use that method to get people on board?

Peter_Pan

I'm ex Kleeneze from 4 years ago, now with Wikaniko,I believe that Kleeneze cheques have fallen over the last few years from what i have seen and heard, i haven't seen any recent "big " cheques. I still however believe that an extra income can be made from retailing with Kleeneze (an extra £50 a week for instance) if you are prepared to build a customer base over 6 - 9 months.

I think that the Farepak incident damaged the name and with so many agents all fighting over territory hasn't helped as well. I do think sometimes its peoples way of selling the Biz which doesn't help either, it does take time to build an extra income and people should in my opinion be told when joining that you need to build a customer base and shouldn't make a decision as to if its working or not for at least 6 months ideally a year. If they aren't prepared to put in that time and effort then they shouldn't be encouraged to join.

When i did Kleeneze there was a desperate tone to get everyone to join and hopefully they'll see the bigger picture .

I think its time for MLM schemes to stop and evaluate their methods of recruiting. I see it as a way to run my own Biz without all the conventional outlay, hassle of sourcing products etc and as such am prepared to put in a lot of effort on my side of it, finding customers and making sales and also reinvesting back into it for some time to grow it.

Back to the this thread Kleeneze or Betterware - depends what you want from it. An extra income only immediately with as little responsibility as possible - Betterware, the chance to build a Business and seeing it as a long term plan definately a MLM Company.

Debbie

Poppycat

How can you claim these are properly business when you have no say on prices, you have no say on what your sell? Thats not a proper buiness

billsavings

Peter_Pan wrote: »

now with Wikaniko,

Yes so you keep telling us whatever the subject.

NikkiP_2

Come on then , lets see the email from GS ?:eek:

petestan

Honest_John_666 wrote: »

Thanks for the reply Pete

As this thread says........Kleeneeze or Betterware....... NO COMPETITION IS IT????

The reason you left before was & you can read back through is you couldn't or wouldn't answer everything & typical of Kleeneze once they get questioned

Your OK & good luck to you, thats why you come on here.

I will continue to tell everyone I know, what I know, very factually & in 99% of the cases it isn't good.....in fact Kleeneze IMO are one or the worst cases about

The day Kleeneze dies a death will be a much much happier place in the world......... IMO & with my experiences of well over 10 years

Regards
John

Hi John, I guess we will agree to disagree then, no problem, as for the reasons I left I have told you why, cheers, Pete.

petestan

OldGreyFox wrote: »

Hi Pete,

Havent seen any pictures lately of Kleeneze Big Cheques. Do they still use that method to get people on board?

Hi oldgreyfox, yes they do but I also haven't seen any from Gavin Scott and Rob Forster either so as Peter Pan says with the recession their cheques must be down.
Looking at the monthly figures there are still people who are building big teams and moving forward just not the top guy's, which is good in my opinion, let those lower down who are prepared to work hard earn the money.

petestan

Poppycat wrote: »

How can you claim these are properly business when you have no say on prices, you have no say on what your sell? Thats not a proper buiness

That's correct but what do you suggest, you go out there and try and source the thousands of products individually that are in the catalogue then you have to buy in bulk so you need a warehouse to store them and then you need to photograph each individual item and print a catalogue to show them off, etc , etc.

The alternative is to try and find a few items that someone else isn't already selling on ebay or amazon, or if they are to try and source it cheaper than them so you can try and compete on price, so you would probably have to buy hundreds and then there is no guarantee that what you buy will sell you could be left with hundreds of a product that never sells. Plus ebay is full of chinese sellers now who you can never compete on price with.

At least with Kleeneze and Betterware you have no need to do all that and you don't need to have any stock until you have an order.
No need for hundred's of water filters stored in your garage as you did with a certain MLM company from what I hear.

Peter_Pan

I agree with what Petestan has said, it takes lots of money and hassle and for the majority of people starting your own Business from scratch is out of the question.
When you have your own brand products as i do which has just been introduced we do buy at wholesale and can price those particular products as we wish once they have our own brand labels on and can have our own outlet for them with other products we source ourselves if we wish so it is even more like your own Biz.

The beauty of these types of Biz is that its open to anyone, it doesn't matter what type of schooling or exams you have, where you have worked before, how old you are, where you live or how much money you have or not you can start your own Business from home, you are your own boss, you can work what hours you want or need to, it fits around existing commitments, no boss to grovel for time off or tell you what to do. If you put in the effort you get the rewards, the downside of course is you have to be a self starter, if you don't do anything it won't work.

Debbie