Kleeneeze or Betterware?

doodledoodle24

where did i say i have not lost a book? of course i have, from idiots like you that chuck them, or one got wet, another a dog got into, ive had kids draw on them and everything, at the end of the day, kleeneze works if you work, people are trying to make a living, i bet your on one of the other boards aswell moaning about people on benefits, i could quite easily sit at home on benefits being a full time carer to my disabled son, but i dont, i get off my !!!! and work, hard, pounding the streets putting my books out, i have one day off a week to wait in for my kleeneze delivery, then im out again delivering products.

I have never come across anyone as rude as you seem in my 8 years!

JennyJewell

doodledoodle24 wrote: »

where did i say i have not lost a book? of course i have, from idiots like you that chuck them, or one got wet, another a dog got into, ive had kids draw on them and everything, at the end of the day, kleeneze works if you work, people are trying to make a living, i bet your on one of the other boards aswell moaning about people on benefits, i could quite easily sit at home on benefits being a full time carer to my disabled son, but i dont, i get off my !!!! and work, hard, pounding the streets putting my books out, i have one day off a week to wait in for my kleeneze delivery, then im out again delivering products.

I have never come across anyone as rude as you seem in my 8 years!

Listen lovely - I wouldn't waste my time arguing with people who don't understand, I would spend it on your business and your family x
I did Kleeneze for 5 years and it was an absolute godsend for me at the time. Yes it was hard work but it helped me earn some good money while my eldest was in infants and my youngest was at home with me I could take my eldest to school myself before popping my youngest in his pushchair and going for a walk while delivering my books On sunny days we'd stop at the park on the way home I was independent and mum to my kids without involvement of childminders and the like I earned money for my family - some months more than I earn now! without claiming any benefits I also made some fantastic friends of which I'm still close to even now
So don't worry about others dissing it - you are making it work for you and your family and that's what's important and I have total respect for you
Good on you love
Jen x

Honest_John_666

When Kleeneze dies a death the world will be a better place without them

petestan

Honest_John_666 wrote: »

When Kleeneze dies a death the world will be a better place without them

What a stupid comment John, what has the company ever done to you apart from an odd distributor who has dared to put a catalogue through your door and probably didn't get it back.
Lots of people enjoy buying from the catalogue and no one is forced to do so, neither is anyone forced to become a distributor they decide for themselves and pay their own money out to become one.
They are a perfectly legal and totally legit company otherwise the OFT (or whatever they are called now) would have closed them down long ago.

BargainGalore

It's as difficult as missing the sign at my front door informing people I dont want cold callers

Perhaps rather than put catalogues through peoples letter box you actually used your eyes to read the notice that way saves me dumping your catalogue in the bin and saves you coming back to try and collect it when its goodbye

Still your catalogue makes good paper to burn in my log burner so at least something good comes out of it

Kleenzeeze over priced tat which can be bought much cheaper in Poundland etc, now thats money saving

doodledoodle24 wrote: »

Just how difficult is it for you to read the message on the front that says 'please leave the book outside'?

We also have idiots like you unable to read a official signs

Perhaps you should learn to read first, what people do with the crap they get through there letter box is there business, its not there fault you are unable to comprehend what the sign says. ignore peoples requests at your own detriment

doodledoodle24 wrote: »

of course i have, from idiots like you that chuck them, or one got wet, another a dog got into, ive had kids draw on them and everything

I do hope so we can wish

Honest_John_666 wrote: »

When Kleeneze dies a death the world will be a better place without them

NeverInDebt

I dont worry the best place for all these catalogues is in the bin, and who cares it costs you money I dont give one hoot because as far as I am concerned people who post this in my letter box dont respect my wishes, that being I dont buy at the door.

You find the notice promptly displayed on my letter box can I suggest those who flog this dead horse take note of the notices people display

JennyJewell wrote: »

Listen lovely - I wouldn't waste my time arguing with people who don't understand, I would spend it on your business and your family x
I did Kleeneze for 5 years and it was an absolute godsend for me at the time. Yes it was hard work but it helped me earn some good money while my eldest was in infants and my youngest was at home with me I could take my eldest to school myself before popping my youngest in his pushchair and going for a walk while delivering my books On sunny days we'd stop at the park on the way home I was independent and mum to my kids without involvement of childminders and the like I earned money for my family - some months more than I earn now! without claiming any benefits I also made some fantastic friends of which I'm still close to even now
So don't worry about others dissing it - you are making it work for you and your family and that's what's important and I have total respect for you
Good on you love
Jen x

JennyJewell

NeverInDebt wrote: »

I dont worry the best place for all these catalogues is in the bin, and who cares it costs you money I dont give one hoot because as far as I am concerned people who post this in my letter box dont respect my wishes, that being I dont buy at the door.

You find the notice promptly displayed on my letter box can I suggest those who flog this dead horse take note of the notices people display

With respect my post was for doodledoodle but with regards to people putting unwanted catalogues through your door, if anyone asked me not to put a catalogue through their door again I didn't. That should be respected although I also warned them that as independent distributors someone else may post one but I assured them it wouldn't be me. In all fairness I grew a pretty big customer base with plenty of people who were happy to shop with me especially those at Xmas time when they couldn't or didn't have the time to get to the shops themselves - one Xmas I was delivering products right up till Xmas Eve to make sure my customers got what they needed. Distributors work extremely hard in all weathers to serve their customers and feed their own families without relying on social handouts so I have every bit of respect for anyone doing it to be honest.
Jen x

Sixer

I must say, I don't think catalogue distributors can really complain if their catalogues are disposed of by householders - or be abusive about householders who do it. It's basically unsolicited mail and it's bound to cheese off some people. If that's what you decide to do to make money, you need to accept that and take the loss of a few books on the chin. Make a note of the addresses and don't leave catalogues there again.

Honest_John_666

petestan wrote: »

What a stupid comment John, what has the company ever done to you apart from an odd distributor who has dared to put a catalogue through your door and probably didn't get it back.
Lots of people enjoy buying from the catalogue and no one is forced to do so, neither is anyone forced to become a distributor they decide for themselves and pay their own money out to become one.
They are a perfectly legal and totally legit company otherwise the OFT (or whatever they are called now) would have closed them down long ago.

Firstly you said on here you wasn't coming back so why are you still here

Secondly, I'll remind you I have met people that have been beaten up because of territory wars working for Kleeneze

Thirdly, I was unfortunate enough to take a leaflet off of a scruffy looking women who said she used to be a solicitor that walked onto my property. When I screwed the leaflet up she swore at me in front of my 7 year old daughter. I called Kleeneze & they promised to call back......4 month's & I'm still waiting

Fourth...ly, The bloke who brings the wife's 'Next' book used to work for Kleeneze for year & years until he got threatened

Fifth....ly, I have a very good friend who works on behalf of a rival company & the horror stories about Kleeneze he tells me gives me the VERY CLEAR opinion that Kleeneze is an absolute disgrace

Sixth....ly, I met another person last week who spent £165 to start & had her books stolen, it now looks as though she'll be on the streets now

NOW....this is for starters, if you want me to put up names & addresses I will do........

If you want I will even put up a nice E-mail I received from Gavin Scott I will do........

NOW.....go & show this to your upline & don't ask me to explain myself again regarding my feelings towards the company Kleeneze

As you know........I'm very well connected in all the right places when it come to the direct sales industry

OH....... by the way........ Betterware now offers guaranteed money. This is for a part-time role & they will guarantee a weekly wage in cash. No start up fees either.

Regards
John

petestan

Honest_John_666 wrote: »

Firstly you said on here you wasn't coming back so why are you still here

Secondly, I'll remind you I have met people that have been beaten up because of territory wars working for Kleeneze

Thirdly, I was unfortunate enough to take a leaflet off of a scruffy looking women who said she used to be a solicitor that walked onto my property. When I screwed the leaflet up she swore at me in front of my 7 year old daughter. I called Kleeneze & they promised to call back......4 month's & I'm still waiting

Fourth...ly, The bloke who brings the wife's 'Next' book used to work for Kleeneze for year & years until he got threatened

Fifth....ly, I have a very good friend who works on behalf of a rival company & the horror stories about Kleeneze he tells me gives me the VERY CLEAR opinion that Kleeneze is an absolute disgrace

Sixth....ly, I met another person last week who spent £165 to start & had her books stolen, it now looks as though she'll be on the streets now

NOW....this is for starters, if you want me to put up names & addresses I will do........

If you want I will even put up a nice E-mail I received from Gavin Scott I will do........

NOW.....go & show this to your upline & don't ask me to explain myself again regarding my feelings towards the company Kleeneze

As you know........I'm very well connected in all the right places when it come to the direct sales industry

OH....... by the way........ Betterware now offers guaranteed money. This is for a part-time role & they will guarantee a weekly wage in cash. No start up fees either.

Regards
John

Those are all nothing to do with the company itself, if whoever had their catalogues stolen has an idea who it was then they should report that distributor to Kleeneze and they WILL take action, they should have a suspicion who it was as a few of the houses will be customers of that distributor and can tell her his name, unlike previously under EHR, Findel are trying to stop this and they also remind everyone regularly through the ewb bulletin that there are no territories in Kleeneze and anyone doing that will will be terminated from their Distributorship.

I have come across distributors who swear they have had loads of catalogues stolen but in reality they never went back for them or couldn't remember where they dropped them as they didn't make a list out or I have personally seen books still on the step 4 or 5 days after they were supposed to collect them but they never went back.
Having said that I am sure it goes on but seeing as more than half the houses you go to do not put the book on the step if you are blanket dropping, they cannot have had all their books stolen.

When I first started out 8 years ago there was a guy doing it on the street next to me, unknown to myself as I hadn't had a catalogue through my door in years and that one that I had wasn't him, he threatened me but I just ignored him and 4 years later when he packed in he gave me his list of customers.

As regards the swearing incident unfortunately some of the people who work in the service centre are useless I know more about their job than they do but again under Findel they are sorting this.
recently I had a customer complain to Kleeneze about a misunderstanding between us, I was immediately contacted by someone high up in Kleeneze and we sorted it between ourselves with me agreeing not to go back there again which I had no problem with.

I left this thread because all that was happening was a slanging match between those who were adament Kleeneze was the biggest scam going and those who say it isn't and the thread was going nowhere but whatever you say I will continue to defend Kleeneze.

Oh and if your friend works for a rival company he is bound to have some horror stories about Kleeneze I suspect there will be horror stories about his company also out there.