Kleeneeze or Betterware?

Peter_Pan

I have heard that anyone who signs up with Kleeneze now is NOT allowed to do any other network not just when you get to Gold Distributor status? can anyone confirm this?
It getting to sound more like a "job" rather than being your own self employed boss by the minute but without the perks of a job (eg hourly rate, holiday pay etc etc). Its very unwise to have all your eggs in one basket in Network Marketing in my opinion and seems Kleeneze is not going to give you a choice if what i hear is correct.

petestan

Peter_Pan wrote: »

I have heard that anyone who signs up with Kleeneze now is NOT allowed to do any other network not just when you get to Gold Distributor status? can anyone confirm this?
It getting to sound more like a "job" rather than being your own self employed boss by the minute but without the perks of a job (eg hourly rate, holiday pay etc etc). Its very unwise to have all your eggs in one basket in Network Marketing in my opinion and seems Kleeneze is not going to give you a choice if what i hear is correct.

Hi peter pan, I have just looked at the up to date version of the operations and procedures manual and it says "Kleeneze strongly discourages against participation in any other network but only prohibits it once you get to "Gold" distributor status."

OldGreyFox

petestan wrote: »

Hi peter pan, I have just looked at the up to date version of the operations and procedures manual and it says "Kleeneze strongly discourages against participation in any other network but only prohibits it once you get to "Gold" distributor status."

Interesting discussion on this subject.

http://www.homeworking.com/discus/messages/2218/198191.html?1282920445

OldGreyFox

Peter_Pan wrote: »

Its very unwise to have all your eggs in one basket in Network Marketing in my opinion and seems Kleeneze is not going to give you a choice if what i hear is correct.

Does your green opportunity discourage you from recruiting people from Kleeneze or similar opportunities.

petestan

OldGreyFox wrote: »

Interesting discussion on this subject.

http://www.homeworking.com/discus/messages/2218/198191.html?1282920445

Cheers old grey fox, that's an interesting discussion as you say can they legally do it.
But the reality is they will terminate you and you would then have to go to court to claim it wasn't legal and I am sure Kleeneze or any other networking company could afford more expensive lawyers than you or I.

OldGreyFox

petestan wrote: »

Cheers old grey fox, that's an interesting discussion as you say can they legally do it.
But the reality is they will terminate you and you would then have to go to court to claim it wasn't legal and I am sure Kleeneze or any other networking company could afford more expensive lawyers than you or I.

Where did i ask if they could legally do it ?

petestan

OldGreyFox wrote: »

Where did i ask if they could legally do it ?

Ok I'll ask can they legally do it then and the reality is until someone takes it to court who has had it happen to them no one knows.

Maybe there have been court cases previously unless you look into it we don't know.

antrobus

A_nice_fellow wrote: »

Peter Pan,

I just had a look at wikiano and I've never seen such nonsense products. Things like the Universal Fuel Saver are pseudoscientific scams and you should really be ashamed of yourself selling them for any price.

An excellent point. The US manufacturer of these magnetic 'fuel savers' was shut down by the Federal Trade Commission a few years back, fined $4.2 million dollars, and banned from the manufacture, advertising, or sale of such devices.

As to the fact that "Wikaniko claim they have emails from customers who are very happy with them". Well, I've read a report that states that "many of those companies installing fuel-savers for customers are deliberately overinflating the tires of those vehicles and performing some other very basic servicing that can in itself result in a 10% or more improvement in fuel efficiency". Thus the customer is persuaded to believe that the 'fuel saver' does indeed work.

The 'EPS Fuel Saver' sold by Wikaniko is a completely bogus product, and the company should indeed be "ashamed" of selling them. It rather undermines their claim to be eco-friendly, ethical, green, whatever; think of all the CO2 that is generated in the manufacture and distribution of an essentially useless lump of metal.

doodledoodle24

bloss0m wrote: »

Mine goes straight in the bin thats what I think of it along with the much junk mail and takeaways I dont even read it nor do I care

Just how difficult is it for you to read the message on the front that says 'please leave the book outside'?

on persons junk is another persons treasure and all that!

I have been a kleeneze distributor for 8 years, have a lovely customer base, all of which can read, and leave the books that I PAY FOR out on the doorstep.

I hope all of you that say it is crap have tried it to justify your comments, otherwise how can you comment?

For me, it means i dont have to put my 2 yr old in playgroup, or pay a childminder to bring her up, and i'm there to drop/pick up my 5 yr old from school every day, have no one to answer too except myself (and occasionaly my dh), and make a full time income on part time hours (without a team).

Its not a get rich quick scheme, and you do have to motivate yourself, orders are not going to come to you, you have to go out and find your customers.
All those that say it does not work must be too lazy to put their books out.

I say give it a go, you get a 14 day money back guarantee anyway

geordie_joe

doodledoodle24 wrote: »

Just how difficult is it for you to read the message on the front that says 'please leave the book outside'?

About as difficult as Kleeneze Distributors who can't read the "No unsolicited mail or cold callers" notice on my front door.

doodledoodle24 wrote: »

on persons junk is another persons treasure and all that!

If it treasure to you, stop putting it through the doors of people who don't want it.

doodledoodle24 wrote: »

I have been a kleeneze distributor for 8 years, have a lovely customer base, all of which can read, and leave the books that I PAY FOR out on the doorstep.

So what are you complaining about? If you haven't lost a book you can't complain about it.

doodledoodle24 wrote: »

All those that say it does not work must be too lazy to put their books out.

That's the old kleeneze mantra, if it doesn't work, you are too lazy. We've heard it all before.

doodledoodle24 wrote: »

I say give it a go, you get a 14 day money back guarantee anyway

I say bin the book as soon as it comes through the door, if you give it back it'll just come through again.