Kleeneeze or Betterware?

Honest_John_666

From DoctorDoom to Doctor Who, the Tardis. I reckon the KLZ cult followers should take a note of what the Tardis is an acronym for

Carrying 250 books is something I wouldn't recommend, I'm guessing that would be near 50 kilos!!!

Good luck!

DoctorDoom

Thanks (and for listening to my rants).

I think people prefer honesty. In any career. Tell someone they'll earn a bit of pocket money for pounding the streets and they'll listen; but tell them about £100,000+ if 100 people order a few pots and pans - and they'll be naturally hostile!

rappa_2

I do Betterware and have done for a few years and it's a doddle. Most Betterware customers are really nice people. Once you've got your customer base established it's the easiest job in the world. Although getting it established can be hard work.

Early days you get about 50p in sales for every book you put out. So put 150 books out you'll get about £75 in sales. You'll lose of books early days but it doesn't matter cos they're free. However over time it gets easier and easier. Nowadays if I whizz 500 books out, I'll get around £500 in sales. If you're a TSA (Territory Sales Agent) with Betterware you get 31% commission on what you sell. So if you whizz 1,000 books a week out you'll sell around £1,000, which earns you £310 cash. Putting out and collecting 1,000 books a week sounds daunting but it's easy if you're organised.

I reckon all in all Betterware earns me around £8 per hour cash. No b888s**t. Paid weekly. No hassle. No aggro. Happy days.

DoctorDoom

Thanks Rappa.

I am really looking into Betterware as I am sure I could fit it in and all I want is pocket money. The free catalogues are a good thing.

Honest_John_666

rappa wrote: »

I do Betterware and have done for a few years and it's a doddle. Most Betterware customers are really nice people. Once you've got your customer base established it's the easiest job in the world. Although getting it established can be hard work.

Early days you get about 50p in sales for every book you put out. So put 150 books out you'll get about £75 in sales. You'll lose of books early days but it doesn't matter cos they're free. However over time it gets easier and easier. Nowadays if I whizz 500 books out, I'll get around £500 in sales. If you're a TSA (Territory Sales Agent) with Betterware you get 31% commission on what you sell. So if you whizz 1,000 books a week out you'll sell around £1,000, which earns you £310 cash. Putting out and collecting 1,000 books a week sounds daunting but it's easy if you're organised.

I reckon all in all Betterware earns me around £8 per hour cash. No b888s**t. Paid weekly. No hassle. No aggro. Happy days.

Pretty spot on Rappa & just a couple of things to add

TSAs get 30% as the standard everyday %. You get annual bonues as well which are dependant on sales levels & the min. order value is £400 per week every week. There is always special sales weeks when money or prizes can also be won if you really go for it as a one week sales push. They have these every 6 weeks

Knocking out 1000 books is tough but do able. Once you've found where your customers are the amount of books going out would be less & less. You get your own exclusive area of around 5/10000 houses depenedant on where you live & whats available

Start off as a part time agent & see how you go. The only thing that can cost you is your free time & a bit of petrol money if you use your car

Its no nonsense, honest, ethical with Betterware unlike the others!

rappa_2

The beauty of Betterware is the more sales you get the more books you get given. So you can keep dropping to non-customers to build up your customer base.

This is important cos your customer base is like a bucket with holes in it: People move, people pass away, people's circumstances change.

If you keep blanket dropping you will gain customers at a much greater rate than you lose them. You'll lose lots of books but it doesn't matter cos they cost nowt!!

And when you earn a bonus with Betterware it gets sent to you promptly. No chasing it, no fobbing you off, bank it, spend it, job's a good un!!

DoctorDoom

If I have one weakness (well, actually, I have many), it's a lack of organizational skills. Would be a minor miracle for me to deliver to and keep track of 1,000 books a week!

Rappa, could I possibly send you a private message at some point with 2-3 practical-related questions? Please.

Oh, and this is important, too: I know all about Kleeneze pressuring people to attend seminars, buy CD-ROMs, being "stalked" by those higher up the chain. Is there any of that sort of approach from Betterware? I am a guy who would put the hours in - but I really would not want to be paying for CD-ROMS or attending a snoozefest seminar where some guy drones on for hours using "American-style" pep talks.

Thanks.

Honest_John_666

DD

From what I've been told & FYI........1000 books is approx 35/40 hours work per week & very tough to start with until you get yourself into a routine

If your going to be looking @ 1000 books per week @ agent level only then your Area Manager will be your best friend!!!

If your doing that level of books then the TSA or AREA MANAGER position would be better suited & will earn you a lot more money for very little extra effort

There are no meetings to attend @ the Agent level. The other levels do have optional meetings every now & again but they are not BS & MLM type meetings. No CDS also. They are having a National meeting in January

Whereabouts in the UK are you?

DoctorDoom

I'm in Birmingham.

Thanks for the info.

oldharryrocks

The Betterware rep put their catalogue through door yesterday.
In in was a printed note asking if we would like to see the Avon Catalogue.