Kleeneeze or Betterware?

Honest_John_666

wongawonga wrote: »

Despite distributors claiming in various places that Kleeneze sales are increasing .See


" Trading at Kleeneze has also continued to respond positively to recent new sales initiatives and increased active ordering distributor numbers. Despite the difficult economic environment facing its customers, the level of annual sales decline has continued to narrow from 2.5% in the 8 week period to 25 November* to 1.2% in the 15 weeks since the half-year.


http://www.ukwire.co.uk/Article.aspx?id=201201180700177306V

So its still on the decline whatever way you look at it.

Still think your all missing a point

THIS WAS THEIR BEST SELLING PERIOD :rotfl::rotfl:


Re-visit this again when the next sales period is documented by Findel it will be further backwards :eek:

My contact @ Betterware says sales are most definately going up although this is only week 3 of the sales year

Never a better time to join Kleeneze though!!!!

Regards to all :beer:
John

Former_MSE_Andrea

Hi everyone

You guys know better than us what's happening on here but let's draw a line under this issue now and get back to discussing the pros and cons of each.

Thanks

PatrickD

MSE_Andrea wrote: »

Hi everyone

You guys know better than us what's happening on here but let's draw a line under this issue now and get back to discussing the pros and cons of each.

Thanks

Can we have it officially from yourself that we can discuss the ''pros'' without being abused and accused of recruiting and having other ''ulterior motives''?

Thanks

Pat

wongawonga

Jeanetteathome wrote: »

This kind of advertising has been mentioned before, they see no problem what so ever with it for some reason. Daft titles like Business development , yet for all the fancy title it's still pulling a trolley of books round the streets to folk who are disinterested at best. Then it's putting out adverts like that carefully not mentioning kleeneze to recruit others to do it.

Yes. What stood out for me was the claim that many people were earning over £10,000 a month,and it was stable and secure role. When in reality we know that,s not true.

wongawonga

Honest_John_666 wrote: »

Still think your all missing a point

THIS WAS THEIR BEST SELLING PERIOD :rotfl::rotfl:

No not missing it here HJ.:D Its important that people that might be interested in upping there income are aware of these things.Might save some people investing in a kit only to flog it on e-bay later.

Morethanconcerned

wongawonga wrote: »

Yes. What stood out for me was the claim that many people were earning over £10,000 a month,and it was stable and secure role. When in reality we know that,s not true.

The people at the very top have seen income fall year in and out. Whilst a few years ago some did make big fortunes - well on paper at least - now there is little chance of getting up the pay plan.

This is evidenced by Gold now being the level that gets supposed prizes like holidays, just a few years ago this was the very start of the levels and supposedly easily attainable by anyone.

A quick look at the PSG's shows how few make Gold and how few can hold onto it.

The important this is people know that the riches and fortune they tell new peoples can be attained in **3 -5 yrs ** will never happen, they'll spend a fortune and waste their lives doing it.

Morethanconcerned

Jeanetteathome wrote: »

Very desperate when they need the BEST time of the year - November to back up their forecasts. Goodness knows what they'll be doing when the April figures come out.

What people may not realise is that findel shares have been bought and sold by the penny share dealers, if they lose interest and move on Findel are finished.

The ALWAYS get pople to make copies of their BEST income cheque to show at presentations, of course at that point the potential new sign ups don't realise the relevance of the different periods. or indeed that ALL costs and overheads have to come out of that cheque.

Couple that with the lies about how long it takes and the potential pitfalls then it's a disturbing thing to be selling to people desperate for more money in these difficult times.

One to AVOID

Morethanconcerned

Jeanetteathome wrote: »

This kind of advertising has been mentioned before, they see no problem what so ever with it for some reason. Daft titles like Business development , yet for all the fancy title it's still pulling a trolley of books round the streets to folk who are disinterested at best. Then it's putting out adverts like that carefully not mentioning kleeneze to recruit others to do it.

The thing people should look out for is that they NEVER mention Kleeneze in the adverts, what are they scared of?

Morethanconcerned

JennyJewell wrote: »

Hi
Can I just point out that the post here seems to have been edited - the original post that had been quoted was a post from Debbie to me from a year and a half ago and was actually from a WIKANIKO thread so no-one was promoting Wikaniko in the kleeneze/betterware thread, it has been plucked out and used on here and not promoted by Debbie on here.

I think Debbie deserves an apology to be honest - shame someone has chosen to edit what they originally quoted. If you are going to have a debate at least make it fair.

Many thanx,
Jen

To be fair to EVERYONE here I think it's best to point out that thge other person quoted post number 18 on this very thread, the kleenezeVBetterware thread. Take a look.

Bit below the belt and they apologised and thats that, but to be fair it **was** off this thread. Where you expressed and interest in wikiniiko .

No editing there just quoting from the past - post 18 take a look.

JennyJewell

Hi morethanconcerned
I have just had a look at post 18 and yes I stand corrected so big apologies to the poster who quoted on it - sorry x
When I originally looked at it it did take me to the Wikaniko thread somehow? but I do sincerely apologise to both poster and to Debbie for getting it wrong x

Jen

Morethanconcerned wrote: »

To be fair to EVERYONE here I think it's best to point out that thge other person quoted post number 18 on this very thread, the kleenezeVBetterware thread. Take a look.

Bit below the belt and they apologised and thats that, but to be fair it **was** off this thread. Where you expressed and interest in wikiniiko .

No editing there just quoting from the past - post 18 take a look.