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Am I missing something? Getting a job is easy!!
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I really hope that people still take employment which involves wiping bums when you get old my little Prim Princess. Otherwise when you are old and infirm, dribbling at the mouth and can't take care of your own bodily habits, then life is gonna get pretty messy and uncomfortable for you if they've all taken your attitude and decided that work in a care home is beneth them and that claiming benefits instead is somehow socially considered as an invitation to the Royal garden party in comparison to working in a job - ANY jobWhat job did you get? Wiping bums in a care home, cleaning the streets, packing ham rolls in a factory...because it wouldnt be a good job in that time span.
. Each day that goes by you are getting older, that day is drawing nearer - what goes around comes around.....trust me, you won't be feeling so precious when some poor, underpaid sod has to wipe your backside.
Do you have some kind of problem with people who do those kind of jobs?. Are you somehow farther up the ecological food chain?. Does posting on threads like this somehow make you feel superior to the rest of the human race?
JSA should be means tested, if only to deny it from Prima Donnas like you!!!!"Dont expect anybody else to support you, maybe you have a trust fund, maybe you have a wealthy spouse, but you never know when each one, might run out" - Mary Schmich0 -
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Person_one wrote: »I think its ok to take 'any' job as long as you try to do something outside of work that shows you're still trying to keep up with your field or get more experience. If you end up with a gap of a few years where you aren't doing anything at all related to your degree/field then employers might think you're out of practice/touch and go for someone else.
That's also true of a period of unemployment.
It always surprises me that you can ask people who've been unemployed for a longish time whether they've done any voluntary work or learning and they seem quite amazed to think that might be useful!0 -
I really hope that people still take employment which involves wiping bums when you get old my little Prim Princess. Otherwise when you are old and infirm, dribbling at the mouth and can't take care of your own bodily habits, then life is gonna get pretty messy and uncomfortable for you if they've all taken your attitude and decided that work in a care home is beneth them. Each day that goes by you are getting older, that day is drawing nearer - what goes around comes around.....trust me, you won't be so precious when some poor sod has to wipe your bloody backside.
Do you have some kind of problem with people who do those kind of jobs?. Are you somehow farther up the ecological food chain?
JSA should be means tested, if only to deny it from Prima Donnas like you!!!!
Don't worry Chris, there are still people who do not think that this is beneath them. My daughter is one such person.
My daughter started looking for work before she left sixth form last year. She finally started work in October. She had a few interviews, but mostly it came down to her not having enough experience, despite having had a Saturday job for a few months in a shop (she lost her job when it closed down). She also had quite a bit of experience of voluntary work, as an assistant leader in Brownies and Rainbows. Not being able to drive was also a reason given for not employing her by some companies.
She walked round every shop in our town centre and two retail parks, as well as several shops in other parts of the town and all the supermarkets, giving in her CV. She signed up with several job sites, looked on the JCP site each day, attended job fairs, and applied dirrectly to several large companies such as Boots and B&Q. Her CV was checked when she attended a young person's employment course run by JCP.
At one of the job fairs that she attended, she had left her details with an agency. This was in June. In August, she was invited to attend a training with them. She then had to wait for Connexions to sort out paying for her enhanced CRB (she had no income - EMA had finished and I was unable to help, as I am on IS, due to caring for my severely disabled son). Once her CRB was through - and she had continued to look for work in the meantime, signing on for JSA in September 2009 - she started work within a few days.
She has now been with her agency since the end of October. She is an unqualified care worker.
On a typical day, she leaves the house at 7.10 to walk to her first shift. She gets a couple of disabled boys ready for school. At 8.30 she walks home and has her breakfast. She is also studying, so she fits this in as well. At 11am, she leaves the house to catch two buses for her next shift, which lasts 1.5 hours. It then takes her an hour and a half to get home, because of the rimes of her two buses, so she gets in at around 3pm. She has her lunch and then leaves the house just after four o'clock. One bus this time, with a ten minute walk, for a shift that lasts 4.30pm-8pm. If she is let out ten minutes early (or gets a lift from another member of staff), she's home by 8.30. If not, she gets in at 9pm. If she doesn't have another shift, she gets her tea. Four nights a week, she is picked up by a fellow worker at 9.15 (just enough time for a quick sandwich), to start an hour long shift at 9.30. She is then dropped off at 10.45pm.
She doesn't work the early shift in school holidays, because the childrens' parents don't require the help. Her evening shift is three days a week, but she still does her voluntary work on two evenings. Another evening, she repeats her lunchtime shift, starting at 6pm and finishing at 7.30, having to get two buses each way.
If any shifts are cancelled, she doesn't get paid. She works every day except Saturday.
But... she is working. She enjoys it most of the time. As well as studying with the OU, she has been asked to start her NVQ level 2 (in health and social care, I think). She meets her tutor tonight at 6pm.
I don't agree that it is easy to walk straight into a job, as the OP seems to have done, but with perseverence and a willingness to try different types of work, it is possible to find something - but it can take a while. So many places ask for experience, but how can people get this without being given a chance in the first place?
It wouldn't be reasonable round here to expect someone to travel 30 miles for a job if they have no car, as public transport is both dire and expensive (Arriva have almost a monopoly, although in a few areas there are some small bus companies running, but usually only from 10am-4pm - not much use to workers).
It does annoy me, though, when people don't bother to look for work, even when they could. I know somebody who gets JSA and complains that it isn't enough, but they are not actually looking for work. Now that's annoying :mad:0 -
Kaleidoscope27 wrote: »That's !!!!!!!!. I graduated 2 years ago and since then I've had 3 jobs. One sales assistant role, one call centre role and I spent an unsuccessful month as a web content editor. And several months of unemployment. An employer, looking for graduate staff or otherwise, would rather see someone in a job that may be "below them" than unemployed. It shows you're trying. Any job is experience and any experience is useful.
I went for an interview this morning for a part time job at Debenhams. Of course the manager asked me "why do you want to work here considering you have a degree?" And I had to persuade him that I wouldn't walk out in 2 weeks time because "something better will come along." (Which I did quite successfully actually because I've long stopped giving a toss about my degree. I just want a job now.) And it's because graduates have a rep for taking on "stop-gap" jobs until something better comes along and so managers are weary of us. And it's f***ing annoying.
When I told my mum I had an interview at Debenhams, her response was "I can't see you getting much more than your JSA after travel expenses." I replied "I don't care if I end up worse off. I don't want to go back to the job centre." Because signing on depresses me. And working doesn't.
lol
I dont have to now anyway as I'm in employment since 6 weeks ago.
I share your reasoning by the way 100%!
What you said is so true and reflects my experience thus far.Hi, we’ve had to remove your signature. If you’re not sure why please read the forum rules or email the forum team if you’re still unsure - MSE ForumTeam0 -
I really hope that people still take employment which involves wiping bums when you get old my little Prim Princess. Otherwise when you are old and infirm, dribbling at the mouth and can't take care of your own bodily habits, then life is gonna get pretty messy and uncomfortable for you if they've all taken your attitude and decided that work in a care home is beneth them and that claiming benefits instead is somehow socially considered as an invitation to the Royal garden party in comparison to working in a job - ANY job
. Each day that goes by you are getting older, that day is drawing nearer - what goes around comes around.....trust me, you won't be feeling so precious when some poor, underpaid sod has to wipe your backside.
Do you have some kind of problem with people who do those kind of jobs?. Are you somehow farther up the ecological food chain?. Does posting on threads like this somehow make you feel superior to the rest of the human race?
JSA should be means tested, if only to deny it from Prima Donnas like you!!!!
Given the choice, I would rather be killed, dead than live in my own mess.
No offence.Hi, we’ve had to remove your signature. If you’re not sure why please read the forum rules or email the forum team if you’re still unsure - MSE ForumTeam0
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