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Brown sticks his foot in his mouth

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  • wymondham
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    edited 28 April 2010 at 10:42PM
    Degenerate wrote: »
    Statesmanship is about the public image a person presents. Private comments between colleagues should have no bearing on it. Everyone should be entitled to speak frankly without fear to their private confidants.

    I disagree on this occasion. Anyone who is in the running to head the country should not bad mouth any of it's citizens like this - it is two faced, which is a weak quality. It's irrelevent what her politcal slant is or what was said.

    I do find it more offensive that he commented "That was a disaster...should never have put me with that woman. Whose idea was that?". I would imagine he says quite a lot in private at the moment if he gets this upset when faced with a voter who is not pre-vetted to ask conforming questions!!

    Still, he apologised which is good. I do think it poor how the tories jumped on it - at least Nick Clegg did'nt make political gain out of it - quite the right response - is he warming to Gordy???? ;).
  • A._Badger
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    wymondham wrote: »
    I disagree on this occasion. Anyone who is in the running to head the country should not bad mouth any of it's citizens like this - it is two faced, which is a weak quality. It's irrelevent what her politcal slant is or what was said.

    I do find it more offensive that he commented "That was a disaster...should never have put me with that woman. Whose idea was that?". I would imagine he says quite a lot in private at the moment if he gets this upset when faced with a voter who is not pre-vetted to ask conforming questions!!

    Still, he apologised which is good. I do think it poor how the tories jumped on it - at least Nick Clegg did'nt make political gain out of it - quite the right response - is he warming to Gordy???? ;).

    I'm not a Tory supporter, but I don't think that's quite fair to them. The only quote I heard was Osborne saying, that 'it speaks for itself' - which, surely, it does?

    Making capital would have been for more severe - not to mention entertaining.
  • bo_drinker
    bo_drinker Posts: 3,924 Forumite
    A._Badger wrote: »
    Moreover, if you want to be elected it helps if you are smart. Brown was anything but smart today. In fact, he was inept.

    He was human, he made a mistake, he apologised. Simple. The media want their two penny worth and then some. The front pages will have it all over tomorrow, it's boring all ready.
    I came in to this world with nothing and I've still got most of it left. :rolleyes:
  • A._Badger
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    bo_drinker wrote: »
    He was human, he made a mistake, he apologised. Simple. The media want their two penny worth and then some. The front pages will have it all over tomorrow, it's boring all ready.

    That was no mistake. It was a rare glimpse of the contempt held by the political class in this country for the views of the people they pretend to represent.
  • Kohoutek
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    A._Badger wrote: »
    That was no mistake. It was a rare glimpse of the contempt held by the political class in this country for the views of the people they pretend to represent.

    Contempt is certainly the right word when you listen to the tone of his voice when he describes her in the car.

    To me, the way he said it is worse than the words he used.
  • I think brown has sealed his fate in this his slim chances have become zero
  • Degenerate
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    She raised a legitimate concern aboout immigration

    I'd be grateful if you'd explain what that legitimate concern was, because all I saw was her making a noise with no coherent expression at all. It seemed like a knee-jerk anti-foreigner moan to me.
  • MissMoneypenny
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    edited 29 April 2010 at 12:52AM
    Wookster wrote: »
    Is it just me or is the phrase "those Eastern Europeans" somewhat unpleasant?

    That isn't what she said.
    When Brown was saying "if you're unemployed you have got to go back to work"
    she said ...........
    " But all these Easter Europeans what are coming in,......"
    Said at 2.36
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/election_2010/8649308.stm
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  • MissMoneypenny
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    The transcript is here:-

    "Duffy: But how are you going to get us out of all this debt, Gordon?

    Brown: We’ve got a deficit reduction plan, cut the debt by half over the next four years, we’ve got the plans that have been set out to do it - look, I was the person who came in and said -

    Duffy: Look, the three main things that I had drummed in when I was a child was education, health service and looking after people who are vulnerable. There are too many people now who aren’t vulnerable but they can claim and people who are vulnerable can’t get claim.

    Brown: But they shouldn’t be doing that, there is no life for people on the dole anymore, if you’re unemployed you’ve got to go back to work. At six months –

    Duffy: You can’t say anything about the immigrants because you’re saying you’re – but all these eastern Europeans coming in, where are they flocking from? "

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article7110540.ece#cid=OTC-RSS&attr=797084
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  • 2010
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    Wookster wrote: »
    Is it just me or is the phrase "those Eastern Europeans" somewhat unpleasant?

    No it describes where they come from.

    Brown or no one else can stop EU member states citizens from coming to the UK.

    What Blair,who was PM at the time, could have done,which Germany and France did,was to withhold benefits for the first seven years.

    It`s little wonder that all and sundry make a bee-line to soft touch Britain.
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