Evicted, locks changed, no notice...

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Touche wrote: »

She admitted she had no idea, left the room and came back with the legislation in hand. She asked how far I wanted to take it and whether I wanted the landlady arrested, fined and put in prison... I replied yes!

Unless I've been living under a rock for quite some time, I really don't believe it's the practice of the police to ask those making accusations what sort of sentence they want to see received before they've even investigated. It's not even the job of the police to request it!

aliasojo

Deleted_User wrote: »

Unless I've been living under a rock for quite some time, I really don't believe it's the practice of the police to ask those making accusations what sort of sentence they want to see received before they've even investigated. It's not even the job of the police to request it!

I have been asked what outcome I expect/want before. It's in order to judge how serious a complainant you will be or if you just want to bump your gums.

If someone is woolly and wavers in their answer or says they just want the person to be told off etc then the Police wont treat the situation as seriously or spend as much time as they would if the issue was going to be pushed further. It's more for them to decide how they will deal with it.

Personally, I would do all I could to make sure this person had everything coming to them. Some people in life need harsh treatment to ensure they wake up to the fact they simply cannot walk over other people in order to satisfy their own wants.

Milliewilly

JQ. wrote: »

Junior doctors do earn £50,000 per year and can earn up to £69,369. As stated clearly earlier in this thread :

"Junior doctors earn a basic salary and will usually be paid a supplement. This supplement is based on the extra hours worked above a 40 hour standard working week and the intensity of the work. The most common banding supplement is 50% of basic salary. In the most junior hospital doctor post (foundation year 1) a doctor on a 50% supplement would earn £33,285. This increases in the second year (foundation year 2) to £41,285. A doctor in specialist training on a 50% supplement could earn from £44,117 to £69,369."

http://www.nhscareers.nhs.uk/details/Default.aspx?Id=553

Lets hope Milliewilly does not work in NHS Management, then again, it wouldn't be any surprise.

OP don't worry, the vast majority believe what you're saying and will try to offer support. I'm no expert in this area but I think how you've been treated is criminal. I do think you should take this as far as you can, because whilst you have the support of family to provide a roof over your head, who's to say the next tenant isn't a single mother without your level of support. Being locked out of her own house may put her on the street.

Good luck in whatever you decide to do. Personally I'd be going for the jugular, but I could understand if you just wanted to walk away.

ps, having seen my SiL work the hours of a Junior Doctor over the last 5 years I can understand why your personal live might be a bit more disorganised than those of us working 9to5.:beer:

No I don't work in NHS Management.

My comments were made at the beginning of the thread when the term 'junior doctor' was used. As your link states a junior doctor DOES NOT earn £50K they earn £33285 with their 50%.

The term 'Specialist' was not used until after my post about salary and as you can see I said in my post after he mentioned he was a Specialist Registrar that I APOLOGISE and if that is the case then yes the earnings are correct.

I still find it very strange that he refers himself to a junior doctor rather than 'speicalist registrar' - all the trainees I know (and have dealt with since 1996) without exception are fiercely proud of their level and will not refer to themselves as a 'junior' doctor as this implies the lowest band of training and thus less experienced.

Its OK to pick holes in my comments but they have been made on the information available on the thread at that time. As the OP has added more information its easy to go back and have a dig isn't it but I don't have a time machine to change my old posts in advance of new information / clarification being added by the OP.

Milliewilly

shellsuit wrote: »

I'd hope that if you needed an operation, it would be done by a surgeon, in a hospital, not a junior doctor, in a doctor's surgery. :cool:

It will most likely be done by a specialist registrar / senior registrar (or should I say junior doctor ) and the surgeon will stand there watching. I would hope they are more organised than they appear from this thread too.

dopester

Fire_Fox wrote: »

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Good for you!! You don't really want her put in prison do you? Will you accept all your property back and a modest pay off?

If you go out today, return home, found a note stuck to the door saying you'd been evicted by the mortgage company / landlord, notice that your possessions had been removed, found the locks had been changed when you tried your key.... would you be happy with the same outcome as you'd like for the OP.

The landlord/mortgage company not giving a toss that you'd have to find someone to stay in the meantime... maybe you have family/friends closeby you can rely on, or maybe you don't.

I'm really doubt you'd be calming seeking just a modest fine and no prison against the perpetrators of an illegal eviction if it had been done against you.

Well done to the OP. It seems you kept that document she wanted you to sign about wanting to leave from your own freewill. If she was in a car with her Mum, I hope you managed to get the licence-plate details... as it seems you don't have her address. The info might help police. I'd have also told the police you were a doctor, and asked the officer how they'd like it to return home after their shift to find the door locks changed and a notice they'd been evicted by mortgage company/landlord. It is really not on.

poppysarah

I hope the OP is seeking legal advice today and starting action against the LL.

JQ.

Milliewilly wrote: »

Since when did a junior doctor earn £50K a year? Senior registrars only earn around that and they are one year away from Consultant Surgeon not on an 8 year training programme :rotfl:

Milliewilly wrote: »

My comments were made at the beginning of the thread when the term 'junior doctor' was used. As your link states a junior doctor DOES NOT earn £50K they earn £33285 with their 50%.

Wow, someone really can't admit when they're wrong.:rotfl:

The link clearly states that a Junior Doctor earns between £33,285 and £69,369. So no need for the extra info on that point and no time machine needed. The OP is a Junior Doctor and earns £50k.

The guy comes on for a bit help after being illegally evicted and he gets people on accusing him of being a liar. Well done for that usefull post. Perhaps next time you should'nt be so quick with your accusations. Just so everyone can be completely clear on what doctors earn, here is the whole link :

Pay for doctors


This page describes the pay for doctors from 1st April 2009.


Junior doctors

Junior doctors earn a basic salary and will usually be paid a supplement. This supplement is based on the extra hours worked above a 40 hour standard working week and the intensity of the work. The most common banding supplement is 50% of basic salary. In the most junior hospital doctor post (foundation year 1) a doctor on a 50% supplement would earn £33,285. This increases in the second year (foundation year 2) to £41,285. A doctor in specialist training on a 50% supplement could earn from £44,117 to £69,369.


Specialty doctor and associate specialist (2008) (SAS doctors)

Doctors in the new specialty doctor grade earn between £36,443and £67,959. See www.nhsemployers.org/sas for more details.


Consultants

Consultants can earn between £74,504 to £176,242, dependent on length of service and payment of additional performance related awards.


General practitioners

Many general practitioners (GPs) are self employed and hold contracts, either on their own or as part of a partnership, with their local primary care trust (PCT). The profit of GPs varies according to the services they provide for their patients and the way they choose to provide these services.

Salaried GPs employed directly by PCTs earn between £53,249 to 80,354, dependent on, among other factors, length of service and experience.

lynzpower

JQ. wrote: »

Wow, someone really can't admit when they're wrong.:rotfl:

The link clearly states that a Junior Doctor earns between £33,285 and £69,369. So no need for the extra info on that point and no time machine needed. The OP is a Junior Doctor and earns £50k.

The guy comes on for a bit help after being illegally evicted and he gets people on accusing him of being a liar. Well done for that usefull post. Perhaps next time you should'nt be so quick with your accusations. Just so everyone can be completely clear on what doctors earn, here is the whole link :

Pay for doctors


This page describes the pay for doctors from 1st April 2009.


Junior doctors

Junior doctors earn a basic salary and will usually be paid a supplement. This supplement is based on the extra hours worked above a 40 hour standard working week and the intensity of the work. The most common banding supplement is 50% of basic salary. In the most junior hospital doctor post (foundation year 1) a doctor on a 50% supplement would earn £33,285. This increases in the second year (foundation year 2) to £41,285. A doctor in specialist training on a 50% supplement could earn from £44,117 to £69,369.


Specialty doctor and associate specialist (2008) (SAS doctors)

Doctors in the new specialty doctor grade earn between £36,443and £67,959. See www.nhsemployers.org/sas for more details.


Consultants

Consultants can earn between £74,504 to £176,242, dependent on length of service and payment of additional performance related awards.


General practitioners

Many general practitioners (GPs) are self employed and hold contracts, either on their own or as part of a partnership, with their local primary care trust (PCT). The profit of GPs varies according to the services they provide for their patients and the way they choose to provide these services.

Salaried GPs employed directly by PCTs earn between £53,249 to 80,354, dependent on, among other factors, length of service and experience.

Not that any of this is in the slightest bit relevant, I agree. At the end of the day no one- YES NO ONE- shloud be illegally evicted. Whether you are on the minimum wage or a doctor - a bin man, office worker- shop assistant WHATEVER

RIGHTS ARE RIGHTS. LL HAS RESPONSIBILITIES

All the rest of whata dr earns ( why cant you just believe the op?)

bit in red wholly agree :T

princeofpounds

Well done OP, good to see that with a little bit of knowledge things look like being on the right path. Do keep us updated.

I notice there are a few opinions flying around as to how far to take the matter. It's your personal choice of course, and there are a number of ways the situation can develop. But my thoughts are:

- Illegal eviction is a crime. For the benefit of society generally it's a good thing if criminals are punished and learn a lesson - if you would prosecute a mugger or an identity fraudster then you should prosecute the landlord.

- There are real personal costs involved here. Emergency accomodation costs, unwanted transport costs, above all the cost of *time* in sorting the problem out etc. etc. Compensation for those is very fair

- But if you can reach a settlement that keeps you happy and avoids the court process, then as long as the outcome satisfies you that is the main thing.

- I would exclude worries about giving the landlord a criminal record in weighing up any settlement. That is not your fault, that was the choice of the landlord when they committed the crime.

Unless I've been living under a rock for quite some time, I really don't believe it's the practice of the police to ask those making accusations what sort of sentence they want to see received before they've even investigated. It's not even the job of the police to request it!

When the police ask if you want to press charges as they often do, that's precisely what they do - ask what your desired outcome is.

I should imagine the officer just wanted to informally find out if it was enough to regain entry or whether the OP would be interested in eventually pressing charges. (i.e. 'wow look at all these penalties the crime incurs, do you really want all that or is it enough to get back in or get your possessions?).

GDB2222

Fire_Fox wrote: »

You don't really want her put in prison do you? Will you accept all your property back and a modest pay off?

It's not up to Touche now. It's up to the Police and the CPS. Would you really ask a mugging victim whether they want the mugger put in jail? Touche has effectively been mugged, and of course a criminal prosecution is appropriate if the evidence stands up. It's up to the judge to decide whether the landlady should be jailed, and if it's a first offence she may get off with a fine and a criminal record.

Touche can also file a complaint with the Police, if he likes, about why they failed to act the first time he turned up there. Telling him that it was a civil matter was appallingly unprofessional.