Flexible new deal stages and signing off to reclaim

dmg24

Vader123 wrote: »

He is doing something wrong

He has a poor CV / application style.
The type of work he is trying to obtain is too narrow.
He is not trying hard enough.
Too high expectations.
Excluded certain jobs.

Or a combination of all.

There are jobs out there. People are getting them, your husband isn't. Hence he is doing something wrong.



So why is he missing out? What else is he doing with his time? Why can't he be the one to get it.

He is doing something wrong and the government agrees, hence no deal.



MissMoneyPenny, I was referring to people who are not ill and can't find a job on their own for 12 months.

Vader

I am inclined to agree. Several friends have lost their jobs over the past year, and not one of them has been unemployed for more than a few weeks. There is work out there, albeit perhaps not in ideal roles.

donnajunkie

Vader123 wrote: »

There are jobs out there. People are getting them, your husband isn't. Hence he is doing something wrong.

has it occurred to you that there are not enough jobs out there? there maybe 100's going for each job. only 1 person can get the job. it doesnt mean all the other applicants werent good enough.

sunnyone

MissMoneypenny wrote: »

The benefit that costs the country the most, is tax credits.The JSA annual bill is a drop in the ocean compared to the 24 billion per year we are spending on tax credits because people don't want to work the hours to keep their own family.

tax credits should be abolished leaving only the equivalent of the married mans allowance for people with families, we brought up our kids without anthing above CB and thats what people should do today and only have kids that they can afford, not to be meal tickets to keep them on benefits for life.

the ammount of people who come here and claim not to claim benefits is unbelievable, they think CB and tax credits come from santa!

sunnyone

donnajunkie wrote: »

i cant have read this correctly last night.
people dont want to have to earn their jsa? too right! its not a wage, its wages that have to be earnt not benefits, if it was a wage it would be at least £5.80 per hour with working tax credit on top of that.

How much LHA do you claim donna?

free prescriptions, etc?

Add it up and its a big weekly ammount and has no relationship with JSA claimed.

donnajunkie

sunnyone wrote: »

How much LHA do you claim donna?

free prescriptions, etc?

Add it up and its a big weekly ammount and has no relationship with JSA claimed.

are you saying if i add ctb/hb etc to jsa that i am getting just as much as someone who is employed? prescriptions cant be counted in my case as i would still get them for free even if i had a job. i have a nhs exemption card.
anyway the fact remains that benefits are not wages. if they want to class them as wages then fine but give us at least the minimum wage, the tax credits and whatever we would still get in ctb/hb.

sunnyone

donnajunkie wrote: »

are you saying if i add ctb/hb etc to jsa that i am getting just as much as someone who is employed? prescriptions cant be counted in my case as i would still get them for free even if i had a job. i have a nhs exemption card.
anyway the fact remains that benefits are not wages. if they want to class them as wages then fine but give us at least the minimum wage, the tax credits and whatever we would still get in ctb/hb.

The fact remains that you dont just get JSA and thats why so many people dont want to work, because then they will have to pay there own housing costs on whatever wage that they can earn and if thats minimum wage some people will be much worse off.

mummytotwo_3

He is most certainly not doing something wrong, he is a manual worker, and is not picky, has machine licences etc. He applied to the local council for a litter pickers job and told he was over qualified and inexperienced!!

I have a law degree, and before i had my children worked within property law, and travelled 2 1/2 hours round trip to my job, after my two children this was not possible, and had planned me to return to work when both children were in full time school.

The fact is that he will do any job to support his family, is willing to retrain but we have to fund it first and then by reimbursed, just not possible with a mortgage and two toddlers to support.

I work 10 hours a week, in a lesser paid job closer to home just so that we have that little extra money per month, and then i had to justify why i wanted that job because basically i was overqualified.

He has taken his covering letter and cv to the jobcentre who agreed it could not be bettered. The fact is that for every 1 job at the minute, over 100 people are applying whatever the job. Once when he went to sign on and not that far back the advisor said she wouldnt do a jobsearch there and then for him because there werent any new jobs on the screen from what he had already applied for!!!

He knows bricklayers that he has worked with over the years on various sites who have been out of work longer than him and still cant find jobs.

Do you really think we want to exist on £100 per week off the government when before we had nearly £1000 a week coming in, i dont think so. Yes we lived to our means at that time, but then we didnt think my husband would be struggling to get a job. At the time building sites and the like had more work than wokers available, now its the opposite.

Dont judge people unless you know the full facts and the full situation. The fact is that my husband would love to work, if only an employer would overlook the lack of experience in some areas and the over qualified, he reminds prospective employers he is eligible for work trails etc but not even this helps.

There is not much more he can do. If he cant get help to retrain the only other option left is working self employed, and is looking into this further.

donnajunkie

sunnyone wrote: »

The fact remains that you dont just get JSA and thats why so many people dont want to work, because then they will have to pay there own housing costs on whatever wage that they can earn and if thats minimum wage some people will be much worse off.

its true people can often struggle even in work. notice how in my previous post i said at least the minimum wage. the reason for that was i think people should get paid whatever the person next to them doing the same job is getting paid.
as far as the ctb/hb people get, we dont actually see the money and it really does just feel like we get the £64.30 and nothing else.

sunnyone

He wont find a job at the job center, we both know that it will come from his contacts that he has worked with over the years because people who need a job center to be a muck shifter are pretty bad at it and have only one string to there bow.

I hope he can find work soon, what area are you in?

TheBottomLine_2

mummytotwo wrote: »

He is most certainly not doing something wrong...

Perhaps choosing to have a child whilst both of you are unemployed and already have children wasn't such a good idea?