Child Maintainance no longer affects Income Support??

nannytone_2

my 5 year old grandsons school has said that it is willing to put the support in place if my daughter would like him to go there, but she feels like it would just proving a point, as the younger boy would do better at a school which could cater for his needs more specifically.

when she went to look round the special school, the head teacher asked how often my daughter wanted him to go. my daughter was puzzed. the baby is 4 in june and due to start full time school in september. the head teacher is happy to accomodate this but rather suprised that my daughte expected his school hours to be the same as her other childs.

shegirl

nannytone wrote: »

my 5 year old grandsons school has said that it is willing to put the support in place if my daughter would like him to go there, but she feels like it would just proving a point, as the younger boy would do better at a school which could cater for his needs more specifically.

when she went to look round the special school, the head teacher asked how often my daughter wanted him to go. my daughter was puzzed. the baby is 4 in june and due to start full time school in september. the head teacher is happy to accomodate this but rather suprised that my daughte expected his school hours to be the same as her other childs.

Sounds a bit odd!There are sometimes options of different hours or shorter hours to start with.

Have to say though that some special schools do so much to include the kids who are unable to move etc.One of the lads at my sons school has several problems and wasn't expected to live to his age (just turned 13 I think) and not much longer,he is in a wheelchair,can't talk,can't really move,has one arm,incontinent etc etc but he's included as much as possible.One thing that makes me smile every year is they get all the kids to do a form of christmas play (and it's not like at mainstream schools as they are all severe in their differing disabilities) and all the kids get to do or attempt to do things that are appropriate to their individual problems.And every year this lad comes out in his chair with the others who are chair bound with similar disabilities and they have a huge cardboard cut out of a sleigh stuck to the side of their chairs and they're helped to jingle sleigh bells They seem to love it (shown in their own way) and it's a very very heart warming thing to see

shegirl

kingfisherblue wrote: »

Believe me, nannytone, I do fight. I have just come off the phone - my friend rang me about our latest battle for social activities for our children. The amount of help available for disabled children varies from area to area. Even then, it is a constant battle to get help. Another friend has been refused several types of help that she has applied for, and was even told that the only way she could get it would be if she harmed her child, which I find disgusting TBH.

Life is one long battle at times and it is exhausting. We shouldn't have to fight for so many things for our kids. The two friends mentioned above, myself, and a few other friends have set up a constituted group so that we can arrange social activites for our children. We apply for funding to hire play centres so that our children can play safely at a time when it is quieter for them (some of our kids can't cope with crowds or noise, others can't get around easily and find it almost impossible when it is busy). We are holding formal meetings to get everyone's views and to record everybody's efforts. We have to do this because of the lack of facilities for our disabled kids and their non-disabled siblings to play together.

Next week alone, I have two meetings about play and leisure for disabled children - one is a meeting of our own group, another is with employees of Social Services.

So yes, I am fighting for what I believe in. I'm fighting more than most people. It's not just for my son, but so that parents in the future don't have to face the battles that we have faced.

I wish you every luck with that Services down here are abismal too.We did have a play and respite centre (all in one) for the kids but the council closed it down due to funding issues:mad: So now we have the respite centre my son goes to overnight once a week (and a few hours day time during holidays) that caters for a max of 6 kids at a time and one play centre that is miles out from everywhere,has limited places,is expensive for sessions,limited in it's sessions and their hours and is quite a pain!There is a respite centre for the physically disabled too but I believe that is being fought for at present.
Childcare for our kids is impossible unless you know someone personally or pay a fortune for a darn good nanny!

shegirl

Should probably post my views on this now :rotfl:

I think the government are complete idiots with this (well most things really).The amount some will get is absurd.I remember doing a calculation of what I would be receiving if I wasn't working on a thread about this a while back and it was ridiculous considering housing costs would be paid too!

nannytone_2

i agree shegirl. Its like the go from one extreme to the other. Still, what doesnt kill you makes you stronger (oso some fool said lol)

my grandson goes to a 'normal' nusery which he loves and the kids there totally accept him. But as he gets older we feel he'll notice the difference between him and them more and we dont think that would be in his best interests.

hermum

I wasn't having a pop at parents who are full time carers for their children with special needs. I hope that you are given enough to ensure that your children & yourselves have all the support & services that you need. Unfortunately giving out means tested benefits & then allowing another chunk of money on top for some isn't going to help with financing the services that some people need.
The Government should decide how much an adult, then each child of a certain age needs to live on. Any special needs should be taken into consideration. If that comes to £100 a week for instance, if CB is £15 & child support is £15 then the parent should receive benefits of £70 a week. Not end up with £150 because the ex partner pays more cs.

kelloggs36

missmontana wrote: »

Actually has anyone thought that maybe that extra bit of money every month might encourage PWC's back to work? I know it will make me a bit more comfortable when it eventually comes thru so I might feel more confident about returning to work as the other money coming in can go towards the household stuff and the maintenance will all go on things for my son.

Why does everyone always have to have such a negative approach to things??

if child support was being paid whilst on income support but capped, this would incentivise somebody to work more surely, as they would then get all their wages, child tax credits and then all the child support. Now though, there is no need to go to work as there are no housing costs to pay, no council tax to pay, income support, child tax credits and all maintenance to come. Paying housing costs and council tax is a huge chunk and would eat hugely into their income. Not having to pay them PLUS getting extra is absolutely no incentive whatsoever for supporting oneself and children (disabled children aside). There is nothing to stop somebody getting their maintenance set up before going to work to see what the payment pattern would be anyway, so that doesn't need to be an issue. There are lots of PWCs with multiple ex's out there (of course not all, I have been an single parent on benefits, in the days when there was the total of £1 family credit on offer to me, which meant I couldn't pay my mortgage etc if I worked and paid childcare as there was no help towards that either), these are the ones who will be laughing all the way to the bank, whilst the taxpayer pays ever more money which they can ill afford just to keep them on benefits. The country needs more tax revenue to pay off the deficit, not keep these people living cushy lives, and let's be honest, if you have lots of children with lots of fathers the money coming in will indeed be cushy. Even if you are a PWC to one child with a high earning ex, you will be laughing. An absolute ridiculous state of affairs.

moomoomama27

kelloggs36 wrote: »

if child support was being paid whilst on income support but capped, this would incentivise somebody to work more surely, as they would then get all their wages, child tax credits and then all the child support. Now though, there is no need to go to work as there are no housing costs to pay, no council tax to pay, income support, child tax credits and all maintenance to come. Paying housing costs and council tax is a huge chunk and would eat hugely into their income. Not having to pay them PLUS getting extra is absolutely no incentive whatsoever for supporting oneself and children (disabled children aside). There is nothing to stop somebody getting their maintenance set up before going to work to see what the payment pattern would be anyway, so that doesn't need to be an issue. There are lots of PWCs with multiple ex's out there (of course not all, I have been an single parent on benefits, in the days when there was the total of £1 family credit on offer to me, which meant I couldn't pay my mortgage etc if I worked and paid childcare as there was no help towards that either), these are the ones who will be laughing all the way to the bank, whilst the taxpayer pays ever more money which they can ill afford just to keep them on benefits. The country needs more tax revenue to pay off the deficit, not keep these people living cushy lives, and let's be honest, if you have lots of children with lots of fathers the money coming in will indeed be cushy. Even if you are a PWC to one child with a high earning ex, you will be laughing. An absolute ridiculous state of affairs.

Well blooming said, couldn't agree more with every word!